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Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:42 pm
by Fallschirmjager
I have noticed references to people converting AKs and APs to commerce raiders.
I cannot find this designation or where this is done?
What am I missing?

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:07 pm
by janushm
not commerce raiders.... Qships.

heavily armed merchants that seem like a easy target for the sub commander. submarine engages on the surface and gets hammerd

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:16 pm
by Fallschirmjager
ORIGINAL: janushm

not commerce raiders.... Qships.

heavily armed merchants that seem like a easy target for the sub commander. submarine engages on the surface and gets hammerd

I saw some refer to the term as 'commerce raiders'

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:50 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Well, then they were misinformed. The purpose of a Q-ship is to fight submarines...

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:32 pm
by Bradley7735
ORIGINAL: Terminus

Well, then they were misinformed. The purpose of a Q-ship is to fight submarines...

Q-ships can also take on a true commerce raider in the hopes that they damage it and save the remainder of the convoy. Of course, a commerce raider will be more of a match for a Q-ship. But, it's still better to lose one Q-ship than 6 AK's.

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:40 pm
by DuckofTindalos
True, true...

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:54 pm
by Drex
Okay, but how do you do the conversions and where?

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:25 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Same as in WitP: Osaka/Kobe or Mare Island. Standard large AK-to-whatever conversion.

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:52 pm
by Drex
Mare Island, huh. I haven't had time to read the manual. I looked for the conversion in one of the US ports but It wasn't that one . Thanks

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:20 pm
by Tankerace
Aks can be converted to BOTH Q ships and Commerce raiders. The commerce raider conversion is "Qship (ML)" (from way back when). The Q ship retains the AK designation, whereas a commerce raider in effect becomes a cheap (and lightly armed) cruiser. Commerce Raiders/Auxilliary Cruisers are for hunting down Q ships, AKs, APs, and smaller craft, Q ships are for bashing submarines.

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:51 am
by Fallschirmjager
AH!

I thought ML was minelayer [:o]

RE: Commerce raiders

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:56 am
by Tankerace
That is what it was, but I decided to beef it up into a raider.