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Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:28 am
by ctangus
Anyone have a source for what certain US Navy & Marine squadron abbreviations mean? VF, VMF, VMR, VMSB, VQDEGUDKIDR, etc.?
I've gotten as far as figuring out that F stands for fighter, M for Marines and R for Recon, but beyond that I'm clueless.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:38 am
by Dereck
ORIGINAL: ctangus
Anyone have a source for what certain US Navy & Marine squadron abbreviations mean? VF, VMF, VMR, VMSB, VQDEGUDKIDR, etc.?
I've gotten as far as figuring out that F stands for fighter, M for Marines and R for Recon, but beyond that I'm clueless.
Not a complete list by far ...
VF = Fighter
VFN = Night fighter
VB = Bomber (dive bomber and level bomber like PB4Y)
VBF = Fighter/Bomber
VT = Torpedo
VP = Patrol
The above are Navy. If there is an "M" after the "V" then it is a Marine squadron. I.E., VF-12 is Navy Fighter squadron 12, VMF-12 would be Marine Fighter squadron 12.
There's others like VCF which are fighters or VCT which are torpedo planes. Just check the type of aircraft being flown.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:39 am
by Tankerace
VF- Navy FIghter
VMF- Marine Fighter
VB- Navy Bomber
VBF- Navy Fighter Bomber
VS- Navy Scouting Squadron
VMSB - Marine Scouting/Bombing Squadron (Uses Scout/Dive Bombers)
VT - Navy Torpedo Squadron
VMTB - Marine Torpedo Bomber
VR - Navy Replenishment (not recon).
VMR - Marine Replinishment (don't think this exists).
VP - Navy Patrol
VO - Navy Battleship Observation Squadron
VCS - Navy Cruiser Observation Squadron
VC - Navy Composite Squadron (can be of bombers of torpedo bombers)
VCF - Navy Composite Fighter
VCT - Navy Composite Torpedo
VFN - Navy Night Fighter
VTN - Navy Night Torpedo
VMD - Marine Patrol Squadron
VMO - Marine Observation Squadron
VMF(N) - Marine Night Fighter Squadron
VMB - Marine Bomber Squadron (NOT Scout/Dive bomber)
Hope that helps.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:40 am
by Feinder
All the abbreviations you ever wanted to know, but were afraid to ask...
Naval Abbreviation Index
And the "V" means "heavier than air", as in not a dirigible.
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RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:41 am
by ctangus
Any idea why the "V"?
While certainly not that important, I've had a question about it for years. My best guess so far is "Venereal" but I don't think that quite covers it. [:)]
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:45 am
by Feinder
See above.
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RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:45 am
by Tankerace
One theory is that when the US Navy created new aircraft squadron designations, it made blimps and dirigible use the letter "Z" from Zepplin, and heavier than air squadrons the letter "V" from the French word "Volplane", which means winged aircraft.
Edit: Thus, VO-3 is Heavier than Air Observation Squadron Number 3.
VF-4 Is Heavier than Air Fighter Squadron Number 4, etc.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:48 am
by ctangus
You answered my question before I asked it.
Any idea why the "V" for heavier than air? Do you know what the airship abbreviations were?
By the way, thanks all.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:49 am
by Tankerace
See above. Z for Zepplin, V for "Volplane" (Winged Aircraft).
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:49 am
by Feinder
See above (again).
[:D]
This is amusing. Would you like us to read your mind again?
-F-
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:50 am
by Tankerace
fThe answer to your next question is trout [:D]
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:51 am
by Feinder
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RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:51 am
by ctangus
Tankerace - you answered my question b4 I asked it too. I need to learn to type faster. [&:]
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:53 am
by ctangus
LOL [:D]
What's the next winning number for the Mega Millions?
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:54 am
by Feinder
"Please phrase your answer in the form of a question..."
so that we can answer it before you ask it.
-F-
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:59 am
by YankeeAirRat
Because the USN has associated the letter Z with dirgiables and other lighter then air units. Primarly since they had recieved a couple of thier intial dirgiables as war prizes following World War 1 from the Zepplin company.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:14 am
by ctangus
What is my favorite fish?
What year did the P-38G arrive in the Pacific?
EDIT: Looks like you answered those too.
[:D]
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:27 am
by GaryChildress
Hi ctangus, check out the link below almost at the bottom of the page is a comprehensive list of Marine and Navy air classifications.
http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPa ... SMCPg.html
Gary
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:50 am
by TheElf
With the advent of the Helicopter in more modern times the "V" took on the meaning "Fixed-wing" as opposed to "H" meaning "rotary-wing". "Heavier than air" thus not being used anymore,
or is it...
I read an article in a professional periodical at work the other day that says we, the Navy, are bringing back the lighter than air community. Scary.
RE: Squadron Abbreviations
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:58 pm
by Feinder
Yeah, I saw the same article Elf (courtesy of Knavey). Scarey... Funny...
It's all the same.
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