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Today's Sun Times:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cs ... vak05.html

If the Marines saw what Bombardment does in WitP - they'd want them back even more!

Of course, from the Navy point of view, while it's cool to be a battleship sailor, having 1800 guys sit on a ship that's useless for modern naval warfare is a bit much.

They'll have their work cut out for them if Missouri's condition is anything to go by.

I read the article in the link.

All I can say is - 'Wow, what a system'.

Politics & big money. I have become quite a cynic over the years, but I never quite grasped just how much corruption or "special interest" rules in the halls of power - even at the cost of lives.

A very disturbing illustration...[:(]

ORIGINAL: Big B


I read the article in the link.

All I can say is - 'Wow, what a system'.

Politics & big money. I have become quite a cynic over the years, but I never quite grasped just how much corruption or "special interest" rules in the halls of power - even at the cost of lives.

A very disturbing illustration...[:(]

Yes and its been that way for 200+ years.

What I want to know is how 16" guns take out targets without colateral damage? This is an ever increasing issue in todays modern urban stlye guerilla wars.

the Pentagon is developing a new 16inch 'smart'-shell. This one can actually chase terrorists through street alleys before exploding.

[:D]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

the Pentagon is developing a new 16inch 'smart'-shell. This one can actually chase terrorists through street alleys before exploding.

[:D]

If the pentagon really wanted to do itself a favor it would design a shell that can target lobbyists! [:D]

The collateral damage might take out half of Congress. (yippie!)

If the pentagon really wanted to do itself a favor it would design a shell that can target lobbyists!

Well, thats only half right. The lobbyists would not be so effective if the politicians and/or comptroller's did not fall prey to the temptations and pressures that come with their jobs.

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

the Pentagon is developing a new 16inch 'smart'-shell. This one can actually chase terrorists through street alleys before exploding.

[:D]

Warner Bros already invented those. Haven't you ever seen Bugs Bunny?? [:D]

ORIGINAL: cassius44

Today's Sun Times:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cs ... vak05.html

If the Marines saw what Bombardment does in WitP - they'd want them back even more!

Of course, from the Navy point of view, while it's cool to be a battleship sailor, having 1800 guys sit on a ship that's useless for modern naval warfare is a bit much.

Well at least he isn't leaking the names of CIA operatives here. [:-]

Hard to see what use BB's would've been in Iraq as just about all of the country is out of range of her guns. Even in North Korea she's not going to be much help on fighting in the inland areas. Sure she had Tomahawks but a submarine can deliver those just as well for a helluva lot less money. That doesn't stop blowhards like Novak though from wading into things they know nothing about.

16" naval fire supprt is sure nice to have around.

But then, lots fo things are nice to ahve around. Keeping 1800 sailors on a ship on the off, off, OFF chance we might need 16" naval gunfire support in some spot that cannot be reached via other means is simply not cost effective.

With the advent of cheap GPS guided munitions that can place a 2000lb. bomb on a target with very good consistency, I am not sure what the role of a BB would be in the modern world.

If we *really* gotta have high caliber naval gunfire support, we should design a simple, modern warship to provide that, not rely on vintage battleships that were obsolete the moment they were launched, not to mention 60+ years later.

Battleships aren't necessary anymore. Give me the new generation 155mm rapid-firing ship guns, with GPS-guided long-range shells, and I'm happy.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Battleships aren't necessary anymore. Give me the new generation 155mm rapid-firing ship guns, with GPS-guided long-range shells, and I'm happy.

So, what does all that bring in the Danish pawn shops?[:'(]

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

the Pentagon is developing a new 16inch 'smart'-shell. This one can actually chase terrorists through street alleys before exploding.

[:D]

If the pentagon really wanted to do itself a favor it would design a shell that can target lobbyists! [:D]

But then what would retired Pentagon Officers do for Jobs? Right now most of them become lobbists to make use of their "inside connections" with their former co-workers.