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Will an AP armed with ASW weapons attack a submarine?

Also, will a heavily armed AP duke it out with a surface attacker? In other words would fitting one out to fight be worth the effort, or should I just worry about the stern-chaser guns.

I'm working on an semihistoric allied player vs Jap computer mod. One thing I've noticed is the computer is bad about sending convoys into harms way without escorts. I'm trying to make unhistoric APs that can double as escorts.

The problem with WITP is that ALL escorts are created equal for ASW purposes. ONLY a ship defined as an escort will attack a sub, and then it is as good as USS England (6 subs in 12 days)! Well - not as good in terms of DCs, but as good in terms of detection.

I regret to say I advocate getting RID of ALL Japanese minor ASW escorts - they are falsely as good as the real PCs.

Crew experience and the CO's stats play important roles. I submit that in the game (under 1.795) IJ PCs and PGs are dismal ASW platforms in comparison with IJ DDs, which themselves are dismal in comparison with US escorts of any description. At best they may interfere with what would otherwise be unimpeded attacks on AKs, APs, and TKs by allied subs, but they certainly pose no threat whatsoever to the subs themselves.

I just load a convoy with an AAA unit. Eats those subs right up!

I just load a convoy with an AAA unit. Eats those subs right up!

What are you saying, Cid? The AAA unit fires from onboard ships???

Does anyone know if this is intentional?

ORIGINAL: el cid again

Will an AP armed with ASW weapons attack a submarine?

Also, will a heavily armed AP duke it out with a surface attacker? In other words would fitting one out to fight be worth the effort, or should I just worry about the stern-chaser guns.

I'm working on an semihistoric allied player vs Jap computer mod. One thing I've noticed is the computer is bad about sending convoys into harms way without escorts. I'm trying to make unhistoric APs that can double as escorts.

This may not be as "ahistoric" as you think! Japanese naval guns were outfitted with ASW shells. Japanese transports - when not otherwise armed - often carried cheap "short guns" whose major functions were to contest with submarines - either surfaced at short range or submerged!
In some ways, Japanese transports WERE their own escorts! But they lacked detection gear - a critical thing. Of course, so did many "escorts" in Japan - just converted trawlers with a .30 cal mg and 6 depth charges!

The problem with WITP is that ALL escorts are created equal for ASW purposes. ONLY a ship defined as an escort will attack a sub, and then it is as good as USS England (6 subs in 12 days)! Well - not as good in terms of DCs, but as good in terms of detection.

I regret to say I advocate getting RID of ALL Japanese minor ASW escorts - they are falsely as good as the real PCs. And I also regret to say your merchant ships will not play PC at all in terms of detecting a sub. UNLESS the sub gives itself away (a common thing in WITP) by surfacing - the merchant won't shoot at it. A trawler will because - if you look it up - it is defined as the same "class" as a real PC!

Actually, since first testing my makeshift ASW platforms I have seen an AP make an ASW attack on a sub. I believe the normal problem lies in crew experience. I gave my "AMC" ships a respectable skill of 45 rather than the normal miserable AP or AK skill, and sure enough I've seen at least two instances of a Jap AP initiating an attack on a sub

ORIGINAL: el cid again

Actually, since first testing my makeshift ASW platforms I have seen an AP make an ASW attack on a sub. I believe the normal problem lies in crew experience. I gave my "AMC" ships a respectable skill of 45 rather than the normal miserable AP or AK skill, and sure enough I've seen at least two instances of a Jap AP initiating an attack on a sub

Which is wrong. A ship using visual only detection outfitted with ASW shells is not a good ASW vessel.