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Anything at all?

yeah Erik, I see you've posted a possible February release in the BG forums.....how 'bout a bit of news for us CS nerds?

Is anyone out there?[:D]

Apparently not

We're lost sheep here.

But happy news will come eventually. [:)]

*bump*

Any news ?

What's about all-games-in-one pack at least, I hope for it before christmass...

nothing official in months - methinks we are now talking vapourware.

Cheers Chris

We are moving forward and John Tiller has given us some updates. We will be saying some more soon.

David

Excellent, very glad to hear of some progress!

Cheers

That is good news, even if it is still vague. I look forward to the release.

ORIGINAL: David Heath

We are moving forward and John Tiller has given us some updates. We will be saying some more soon.

David

That was a bit more than a month ago. Are we closing in on "soon" yet? [;)]

Hi Everyone

Yes but still a little ways to go befroe we are ready. We expect TOAW to go first then followed by the Battleground series.

David

ORIGINAL: David Heath

Hi Everyone

Yes but still a little ways to go befroe we are ready. We expect TOAW to go first then followed by the Battleground series.

David

David -
Let me just be sure I have this correct. The priority is TAOW, then Battleground, then Campaign. So we are likely 2 years away from seeing the rerelease of this title. Is that correct? Clearly I think we were hoping we would see it a lot sooner, but I must say it is far easier to deal with the truth and know this one is out a ways than it is to keep checking back wondering why nothing seems to be happening. Please confirm that intent and thanks for being honest on the priorities.

ORIGINAL: jchastain

ORIGINAL: David Heath

Hi Everyone

Yes but still a little ways to go befroe we are ready. We expect TOAW to go first then followed by the Battleground series.

David

David -
Let me just be sure I have this correct. The priority is TAOW, then Battleground, then Campaign. So we are likely 2 years away from seeing the rerelease of this title. Is that correct? Clearly I think we were hoping we would see it a lot sooner, but I must say it is far easier to deal with the truth and know this one is out a ways than it is to keep checking back wondering why nothing seems to be happening. Please confirm that intent and thanks for being honest on the priorities.

I don't think anything that David said translates into "two years". My mental fantasy would be the release sometime this summer, say within 4 months.

What about it David? Am I being too optimistic? [&o]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

I don't think anything that David said translates into "two years". My mental fantasy would be the release sometime this summer, say within 4 months.

What about it David? Am I being too optimistic? [&o]

Looking at the timeline to date for TAOW, I think it would be safe to say that you are likely a little too optimistic and that I am probably a little too pesimistic. But I always believed in managing expectation so that people are pleasantly surprised instead of disappointed and I tend to skew my estimates based on that philosophy.

ORIGINAL: jchastain

ORIGINAL: David Heath

Hi Everyone

Yes but still a little ways to go befroe we are ready. We expect TOAW to go first then followed by the Battleground series.

David

David -
Let me just be sure I have this correct. The priority is TAOW, then Battleground, then Campaign. So we are likely 2 years away from seeing the rerelease of this title. Is that correct? Clearly I think we were hoping we would see it a lot sooner, but I must say it is far easier to deal with the truth and know this one is out a ways than it is to keep checking back wondering why nothing seems to be happening. Please confirm that intent and thanks for being honest on the priorities.

Hi

I have no idea how you got 2 years <g>. There are 3 teams working on each of these projects so I do not see it going that long. I know you are upset over the GOA game but please remember that Frank Hunter is his own developer and he sets his own timelines. The Talonsoft games are totally Matrix projects and God willing will go much faster.

David

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David -
Let me just be sure I have this correct. The priority is TAOW, then Battleground, then Campaign. So we are likely 2 years away from seeing the rerelease of this title. Is that correct? Clearly I think we were hoping we would see it a lot sooner, but I must say it is far easier to deal with the truth and know this one is out a ways than it is to keep checking back wondering why nothing seems to be happening. Please confirm that intent and thanks for being honest on the priorities.
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I don't think anything that David said translates into "two years". My mental fantasy would be the release sometime this summer, say within 4 months.

What about it David? Am I being too optimistic? [&o]
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Yes you are a lot closer to where I see things going.

David

ORIGINAL: David Heath

Hi

I have no idea how you got 2 years <g>. There are 3 teams working on each of these projects so I do not see it going that long. I know you are upset over the GOA game but please remember that Frank Hunter is his own developer and he sets his own timelines. The Talonsoft games are totally Matrix projects and God willing will go much faster.

David

Well, to be honest, where I got 2 years from was in not really thinking through that these were clean-ups. Sometimes my fingers move faster than my brain. [:D] My gut says 4 months is still overly aggressive based on the timeline for TAOW and the priorities you laid out, but that might just be me being overly conservative.

As for the GOA thing, I do understand the situation with Frank. Not to be nasty, but I also have seen a history of Matrix promising updates that never come and I just think that the communication needs to be better managed. [;)]

Well, to be honest, where I got 2 years from was in not really thinking through that these were clean-ups. Sometimes my fingers move faster than my brain. [:D] My gut says 4 months is still overly aggressive based on the timeline for TAOW and the priorities you laid out, but that might just be me being overly conservative.

As for the GOA thing, I do understand the situation with Frank. Not to be nasty, but I also have seen a history of Matrix promising updates that never come and I just think that the communication needs to be better managed. [;)]

Well I agree that our timing been off in the past and now why I won't give a release date. A lot of the problem withdate giving is that the developers are giving Matrix there best guess and it can be very off. Matrix never wants to push the developer before the game is ready. Understand where you are coming from and we are trying to make changes so that does not happen that often.

David

From a random developer appreciating that there actually are professionals out there who understand developers. There is nothing worse than being badgered for dates and estimates. It is better that they are submitted and published... However, also being a rabid fan of the series when I am not at work, I still want my East Front! Make zem verk harder!!!
[8D]