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Identify picture 6

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:38 pm
by Martti
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RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:50 pm
by Terminus
Finnish dual AA gun; 37mm caliber?

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:15 pm
by wernerpruckner
looks more like the 23mm ZSU-23-2
the fins called them m/61

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:17 pm
by Terminus
I was looking at those top-mounted magazines; don't think I remember those on the ZU-23.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:21 pm
by wernerpruckner
if it is finnish it could also be an ex Hispano Suiza HS-661 (upgraded with a gun HS831) - I think later it was called Oerlikon KCB .
but it just does not look like that one.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:56 am
by Raverdave
Hmmm.......Those mags would have a bit of weight in them with the ammo....add to that the rate of fire and you would soon get very fit changing those puppies.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:37 pm
by RBWhite
DPRK M-1992 (5 round clips)

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:37 pm
by Terminus
It's too big, isn't it?[&:]

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:48 pm
by RBWhite
Sorry about that the M-1992 would indicate it being track mounted

The DPRK 37mm does have a 5 round clip.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:24 pm
by Terminus
I'm not saying you're wrong, but how would a North Korean weapon make it to Finland? Because that definitely looks like a Finnish uniform.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:05 pm
by RBWhite
Gotcha

Stange, the only gun with clips I can find is the DPRK 37mm SPAAG?[&:]

Can you gauge the year by the uniform?

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:09 pm
by Terminus
Not really, except that it's postwar; the Finns have used that type of patchy camo pattern for a while now.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:14 am
by RBWhite
Well, after some really indepth googling my thoughts lead me to believe that the gun is home grown in Finland. 37, 47 don't know.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:42 am
by Martti
A few hints: first, the gun is smaller than 37mm. Second, take a look at the muzzle brakes. They may help identifying the gun.

RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:03 am
by RBWhite
Martti

20mm ItK/40 VKTZ
Designed by Aimo Lahti
Built at = Vaition Kivaeritehdas (Finnish State Owned Factory)



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RE: Identify picture 6

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:14 am
by Martti
RBWhite has it. 20mm ItK/40 VKT2 it is.