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The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:59 pm
by Mr.Frag
Found this little tidbit the other day ... makes for an interesting read ... we tend to concentrate a lot on the machines and ignore the men behind them ...

http://www.inventionandtechnology.com/x ... feat_0.xml

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:22 pm
by Ron Saueracker
I think it may be linked to diet...

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RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:26 pm
by Mr.Frag
Your starting that one again? [:D]



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RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:33 pm
by Ron Saueracker
Yeah, like who in their right mind, excepting the Old Man and the Sea character who was starving and could not catch many fish, would eat this with bazillions of fish available? There must be some secret benefit.

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:37 pm
by Mr.Frag
Eating brains ... not that the fish had any or it would have been the one who got away ...

Kinda a like rabbits foot ... certainly didn't bring much luck to the rabbit [:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:04 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Found this little tidbit the other day ... makes for an interesting read ... we tend to concentrate a lot on the machines and ignore the men behind them ...

http://www.inventionandtechnology.com/x ... feat_0.xml


So, according to the article, kill rates double for g-suited Allied pilots (while the IJN and IJA didn't have them). So, when can we expect the "G-suit/M-maneuver" bonus for the Allies to show up in WITP??[:'(][:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:17 pm
by Nikademus
already there.....its called the Corsair [:'(]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:35 pm
by Mr.Frag
Don't forget the F6F's ... they eat japanese aircraft too

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:41 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Don't forget the F6F's ... they eat japanese aircraft too


Ah, but shouldn't ALL Allied (or at least US) aircraft have their kill rates doubled? [:'(]

i can see it now: Beware of the Wirraways!!![:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:52 pm
by Mr.Frag
Naw, lets not get carried away ... you do need an aircraft that the wings don't fall off when you pull 3 g's [:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:25 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Naw, lets not get carried away ... you do need an aircraft that the wings don't fall off when you pull 3 g's [:D]

Well, there is that... [:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:45 pm
by moses
). So, when can we expect the "G-suit/M-maneuver" bonus for the Allies to show up in WITP??

A bonus is totally inappropriate. G-suits should be tracked individually and rules designed so that we can assign them by pilot. Naturally only the best pilots should be given the limited G-suits.

It should also be required that they be physically transported from the west coast to the individual air bases in order to be available. Obvously, the g-suits would not become available on the same day all over the Pacific.

Until the G-suit BUG is solved we should consider the game broken at least as far as historical accuracy is concerned.

[:D][:D] Joking of course.[:D][:D]


RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:49 pm
by Nikademus
what if the suits start disapearing? is it a bug or is it a logistical creativity clause built into the game to represent motivated squadron ordinance clerks......?

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:52 pm
by rtrapasso
A bonus is totally inappropriate. G-suits should be tracked individually and rules designed so that we can assign them by pilot. Naturally only the best pilots should be given the limited G-suits.

Ah - we could click on the pilot, and assign them G-suits, with g-suit availability listed at the bottom of the pilot screen (sort of like PT boat or barge availability in the Ships screen). Then if we gave them a g-suit, they get a little asterisk next to their name. Their chance of kill is doubled... Oh, boy!!

So, Frag, when is the code being revised??!!![:D][:D][:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:53 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

what if the suits start disapearing? is it a bug or is it a logistical creativity clause built into the game to represent motivated squadron ordinance clerks......?


The suits are sold on a first-come-first-served basis through M&M Enterprises...[:D]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:55 pm
by moses
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

what if the suits start disapearing? is it a bug or is it a logistical creativity clause built into the game to represent motivated squadron ordinance clerks......?

As I would not like my suits disappearing I would have to call it a bug. Creativity should only be used to justify aspects of the game which I like.

I hope that clears up your confusion. Now please get back to work on that sinking US CV bug.

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:59 pm
by Nikademus
that wasn't a CV bug....i was momentarily possessed by Rroberson

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:29 pm
by Mr.Frag
ORIGINAL: moses
). So, when can we expect the "G-suit/M-maneuver" bonus for the Allies to show up in WITP??

A bonus is totally inappropriate. G-suits should be tracked individually and rules designed so that we can assign them by pilot. Naturally only the best pilots should be given the limited G-suits.

It should also be required that they be physically transported from the west coast to the individual air bases in order to be available. Obvously, the g-suits would not become available on the same day all over the Pacific.

Until the G-suit BUG is solved we should consider the game broken at least as far as historical accuracy is concerned.

[:D][:D] Joking of course.[:D][:D]



Can you find out the cargo requirements for these devices and also the manufacturing requirements ... obviously we need to add some factories with R&D that players can mess with to get it right [;)]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:31 pm
by Mr.Frag
that wasn't a CV bug....i was momentarily possessed by Rroberson

Hail to the Chief!

Rob *invented* the artform of loosing CV's ... no one else has even come close to that many creative ways of doing it! [&o]

RE: The Zero Bonus ... Uncovered?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:40 pm
by tsimmonds
The suits are sold on a first-come-first-served basis through M&M Enterprises...
...and everyone owns a share.