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Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:25 pm
by Feinder
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#1 09:11:49 09:17:22 5:33 Ron Saueracker HMS Dragon
#2 15:15:47 19:19:54 4:04:07 Marc Tsugaru
#3 10:20:18 10:48:42 28:24 Django HMS Arbiter or USS St. Simon
#4 15:39:26 19:06:50 3:27:24 Ron Saueracker USS Oglala
#5 09:13:54 08:38:05 23:24:49 Ron Saueracker HMAS Mildura
#6 16:27:38 14:58:36 22:30:58 Spence Le Triomphant
#7 10:22:26 11:06:38 44:12 KDonovan Sakawa
#8 10:59:23 13:47:01 2:47:38 Kumano Shimane Maru
#9 08:53:21 14:34:15 5:40:54 Mynok USS Hilo
#10 15:27:55 00:36:20 9:08:25 Rtrapasso I-367
#11 16:27:50 16:53:11 26:21 Fokkov H.NL.M.S. Abraham Crijnssen
#12 10:42:51 21:02:55 10:20:04 BluesBob Tanikaze
#13 09:25:26
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:06 pm
by Sneer
Minekaze class for me
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:10 pm
by John 3rd
Too small for a DD. I would bet on a MSW or PG.
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:16 pm
by rtrapasso
EDIT: Strange - i was replying to a post that said it was a Momi class, but when i go back, there is no such post.
I dunno, it looks a bit short (for a Momi), but it could be the angle of the mystery photo...
I'll guess Nokaze.
Here's a pic of her...
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:18 pm
by Sneer
it can't be Minekaze - checked
so it is ...
P-101
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:19 pm
by Sneer
picture from Hong kong ?
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:22 pm
by Feinder
Good grief Sneer!
Touche, no foolin' you guys today.
And, what was her "previously known as" name... (I know you know it)
-F-
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:25 pm
by Sneer
HMS Thracian
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:27 pm
by rtrapasso
rats - originally i thought - "this is a British ship captured by the IJN" and tried googling it - without success...
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:30 pm
by Feinder
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Previous Correct Answers...
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Number Time Posted Time Correct Time Lapsed Who Got It Answer
#1 09:11:49 09:17:22 5:33 Ron Saueracker HMS Dragon
#2 15:15:47 19:19:54 4:04:07 Marc Tsugaru
#3 10:20:18 10:48:42 28:24 Django HMS Arbiter or USS St. Simon
#4 15:39:26 19:06:50 3:27:24 Ron Saueracker USS Oglala
#5 09:13:54 08:38:05 23:24:49 Ron Saueracker HMAS Mildura
#6 16:27:38 14:58:36 22:30:58 Spence Le Triomphant
#7 10:22:26 11:06:38 44:12 KDonovan Sakawa
#8 10:59:23 13:47:01 2:47:38 Kumano Shimane Maru
#9 08:53:21 14:34:15 5:40:54 Mynok USS Hilo
#10 15:27:55 00:36:20 9:08:25 Rtrapasso I-367
#11 16:27:50 16:53:11 26:21 Fokkov HNMS Abraham Crijnssen
#12 10:42:51 21:02:55 10:20:04 BluesBob Tanikaze
#13 09:25:26 10:18:40 53:14 Sneer P-101 or HMS Thracian
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:00 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
EDIT: Strange - i was replying to a post that said it was a Momi class, but when i go back, there is no such post.
I dunno, it looks a bit short (for a Momi), but it could be the angle of the mystery photo...
I'll guess Nokaze.
Here's a pic of her...
There was a post. I saw it. But now it vanished into the ether.
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:10 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
EDIT: Strange - i was replying to a post that said it was a Momi class, but when i go back, there is no such post.
I dunno, it looks a bit short (for a Momi), but it could be the angle of the mystery photo...
I'll guess Nokaze.
Here's a pic of her...
There was a post. I saw it. But now it vanished into the ether.
Oh, good, the hallucinations aren't back again...
Actually, i think it was Sneer's "Minekaze class" post. i've noticed that it possible to *quickly* edit your own posts, and the forum software sometimes will not make note of it ...
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:56 pm
by panda124c
Hey Feinder why not ask what the ship behind this one is??? The stack is easily seen. [:D]
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:02 pm
by Feinder
What's funny is, I first thought the small stack behind it, was a maybe a third stack on the ship. I was validating the pic (found other pics of Thracian), and thought, "Hmmm. Maybe this one is another one that was mis-identified in the first place... What's up that third stack... Hm. Not a 3rd stack, must be something behind it...".
Not much on the Thracian, other than, "It was obsolete when the war began. It got captured by the Japanese. It miraculously survied the war. It was broken up in 1947."
Anybody got a ship's history on the Thracian? I'm not finding much...
-F-
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:09 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Feinder
Anybody got a ship's history on the Thracian? I'm not finding much...
-F-
How about one from one of my PBEMs?
7 Dec 41. am. Sitting in Hong Kong harbor when word is heard that war has broken out with the Japanese.
7 Dec 41. pm. Frantically steaming SW to escape to a safe haven.
8 Dec 41. am. Black cloud covering the sun? No, that's a swarm of Japanese planes. Few minutes later.... Down she goes with all hands.
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:50 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Feinder
What's funny is, I first thought the small stack behind it, was a maybe a third stack on the ship. I was validating the pic (found other pics of Thracian), and thought, "Hmmm. Maybe this one is another one that was mis-identified in the first place... What's up that third stack... Hm. Not a 3rd stack, must be something behind it...".
Not much on the Thracian, other than, "It was obsolete when the war began. It got captured by the Japanese. It miraculously survied the war. It was broken up in 1947."
Anybody got a ship's history on the Thracian? I'm not finding much...
-F-
i found something that said she grounded outside Hong Kong harbor, which is how she got captured.
EDIT: Found this, as well as a note that she was fitted out to be a minelayer (!!):
Navy: The Royal Navy
Type: Destroyer
Class: Admiralty S
Pennant: D 86
Built by: Hawthorn Leslie & Co. (Hebburn-on-Tyne, U.K.)
Ordered: Jun, 1917
Laid down: 10 Jan, 1918
Launched: 5 Mar, 1920
Commissioned: 21 Apr, 1920
Lost: 24 Dec, 1941
History: Completed by Sheerness Dockyard (Sheerness, U.K.)
HMS Thracian (Lt. Cdr. A.L. Pears, RN) ran aground at Hong Hong on 24 December 1941 and was captured by the Japanese. She was salvaged by the IJN, repaired and recommissioned on 25 November 1942 as Patrol Vessel No.101, then re-rated a training ship in March 1944, being attached to the torpedo school at Yokosuka. Recaptured in 1945, she was eventually broken up at Hong Kong post-war.
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:51 pm
by Mike Solli
Any word on what happened to her? Did she form a division with the Stewart? Patrol ship 101 maybe?
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:53 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
Any word on what happened to her? Did she form a division with the Stewart? Patrol ship 101 maybe?
see above. She didn't last too long in the war, although she did last longer than Dec 8...
RE: Mystery Ship #13
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:55 pm
by rtrapasso
from notes on the S-class:
These ships were completely outclassed by modern ships at the start of WW2.
Stronghold, Sturdy and Thracian were fitted as minelayers.
Thanet, Tenedos, Scout, Stronghold, Thracian and Sturdy sailed for the Far East in 1939 to form local defence flottilas at Hong Kong and Singapore. When the Second World War broke out Sturdy was on passage in the Mediterranean and was detained there. She returned home after the fall of France.