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Few spanish generals

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:32 pm
by imberbe
Hi all!

Im very happy with this wonder game but as a Spanish Historician i must say...None of the game´s creators has readed the Peninsular War (Guerra de la Independencia 1808-1814)? I know the great battles of Wellington and his friends from Lisboa to Tolouse but we dont must forget the great battles of Spain with better or lower skills. The first great napoleonic crushing defeat in Bailen, the eternal hispanic guerrilla, the spanish total war (from a boy to old men and women)...generated a lot of good comanders like Castaños -victor of Bailen-, Spoz y Mina -Better general of Guerrilla-, Alvarez -great defender for 6 months of Gerona-, Empecinado -great controller of middle Spain-, La Romana, Blake, Reding, Cuesta, etc...
Wellington, Napoleon, Blucher, Charles, etc was a great generals but not the ones.


RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:23 pm
by malthaussen
I think the devs have a distinct British slant (look at the ratings of the common British generals compared to those of other nations, nevermind the lead programmer's own avatar), and it is common for British historians to slight the efforts of Spain in the Peninsular War.

-- Mal

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:25 am
by Kevan
Was just thinking the same thing this week when I picked up an old book about Wellington's Peninsular campaign. Aside from the issue of Spanish generals, I think that there's probably a need for more national character in general, other than differing morale and the geurillas/cossacks/landwehr units. It would be nice to see some upgrades limited to certain nations, and differing ranges for taxes, feudal levels, conscription rates, fortifications, etc. for each nation.


RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:34 pm
by imberbe
ok thanks a lot

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:08 pm
by Hard Sarge
Interesting ideas on the how's and whyfors

(LOL that should get the grammer police a running)

look at his Avatar ?

okay look at mine and tell me where my "leanings" are

(I got something wrong in my profile so my Avatar, or banners don't work)



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RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:48 pm
by ericbabe
We had difficulties finding portraits for Spanish generals (and for Turkish generals).

It is very easy to mod the game to add new generals or to change their stats. We even have room for more than 100 additional portraits of generals.

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:11 pm
by Hard Sarge
oh yea?

so when you gonna add in HARD du Sarge

????


lets see

0.70 init
1.00 Tact
-0.25 spelling


RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:56 pm
by imberbe
Ok boss i have all retraits of all famous spanish general if you need

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:37 pm
by pixelpusher
ORIGINAL: ericbabe

We had difficulties finding portraits for Spanish generals (and for Turkish generals).

Yup, I can confirm that. It was difficult to find usable portriats of even the handful of top Spanish leaders. Thank goodness for Goya. IIRC, There were a couple of low-quality b/w images of some of the guys, but it took so much effort to colorize them that they got cut and replaced w/ others.

The turks were worse, though; There are 1001 portraits of the Sultan, but few of anybody else. Fortunately, nobody recognizes what those guys look like, and their clothing styles don't change much either so we can use people from 50 years before or after.

The russians have the best portraits. Meticulously documented.

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:45 pm
by ericbabe
ORIGINAL: imberbe

Ok boss i have all retraits of all famous spanish general if you need

Maybe you can upload them onto the forum here and we can figure out which generals we want to add.




RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:14 am
by Hard Sarge
Kewl
more real Generals would be great

then again

don't forget HARD du Sarge


RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:32 pm
by imberbe
ok, i´ll send images soon

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:33 am
by imberbe
Errr excuseme but....how can send the photos? and where?

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:06 pm
by ericbabe
You can just upload them to the forum here. When posting a reply there is a line of text below the body of the message that reads "Click here to upload!" Click there to upload. The Matrix forums support most popular types of file formats -- jpg, gif, etc. -- with files up to 200K.




RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:45 pm
by Mr. Z
In addition, the Peninsular War wasn't underway yet in 1805, though in retrospect we could maybe have programmed more Spanish generals to appear later on in the scenario. Timetables for the appearance of leaders was something we were really only able to implement in part, I would say.

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:53 am
by imberbe
ok Mr Z but let me tell a pair of things:

General Castaños was a high ranged general from a little time before 1805 and also a lot of spanish generals.
The guerrilla´s heroes like Empecinado, Cura Merino, Espoz y Mina... only from 1808 but not the others comanders, my friend.

I have a lot of photos and i´ll publish soon with his own history!

PS: Sorry for my poor english im a spanish

RE: Oh, Please!

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:03 am
by Grand_Armee
Hard du Sarge?[&:] LOL...I'm still laughing[:D] I think you need a modesty modifier![;)] Hmmmm...I wonder if they can find one of those huge French bicornes big enough?[;)] Perhaps dye some unused sails from a French Man-o-war and a lot of starch?[;)]

God Bless ya HS!

Sorry...I'm still laughing.

Hard du Sarge....[:D]

RE: Oh, Please!

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:44 pm
by Hard Sarge
modesty modifier ?

LOL I thought I was being hit HARD enough with the spelling one ?


RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:54 pm
by Gil R.
ORIGINAL: pixelpusher

The turks were worse, though; There are 1001 portraits of the Sultan, but few of anybody else.


So perhaps the thing to do for Turkey would be to take the image of the Sultan and reuse it by dressing him up in various disguises -- Gen. Groucho Marx, Gen. Zorro, Gen. Long John Silver, etc.

RE: Few spanish generals

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:39 pm
by malthaussen
What I did was to make a bunch of portraits of beautiful women... Gen. Kate Hepburn, Gen. Natalie Wood, etc...

-- Mal