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weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:53 pm
by zuikaku
In my games it allways rains in India. One or two sunny days in two years. Is this strange or???
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:04 pm
by MarcA
ORIGINAL: zuikaku
In my games it allways rains in India. One or two sunny days in two years. Is this strange or???
Strange, no. Realistic, sadly no.
Weather is not handled very well in the game. The manual describes exactly how things are done, but this does not mean that the weather the rules create is correct. I have always felt the weather in the game was a bit of a bodge which somebody always intended to revisit and fix but never got around to it.
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:06 pm
by Feinder
I think it was said basically there is a "roll" each day, something like
0 - 2 = Worsen
3 - 6 = Same
7 - 9 = Improve
However, for CBI the zones are marked with a -1 so the table is something like
0 - 3 = Worsen
4 - 6 = Same
7 - 9 = Improve
This tends to "pull" the weather towards rain etc. It means that there is a 70% chance that the weather will be the same or worse. So bad tends to stay bad. Once you're in the "rain" catagory, there's only a 30% chance to pull yourself out of it. And even if you do, there's a 40% chance that you'll fall back into rain.
I don't know what the actual percentages are btw, just giving example.
-F-
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
by tsimmonds
Try a game with advanced weather turned off. You still get variability including the full range of weather, but (so far) we have not gotten stuck on thunderstorms anywhere like we always did before.
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 pm
by Feinder
Really?
I thought advanced weather meant always Clear...?
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RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:25 pm
by tsimmonds
It must mean that it always resets to clear (or is it overcast? I thought that's what it was) just before before they do the weather die roll for the next turn, cause it for sure is not always clear.
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:32 pm
by Nikademus
Partially cloudy
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:03 pm
by PzB74
Bad weather is a good way to limit the amount of air strikes in the game if you ask me.
It's not so that the entire region will experience bad weather during a rainy day either.
So weather has never been a big concern to me playing either Jap or Allied side.
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:56 pm
by Tophat1815
I always went with weather was a way to slow the game down. Remember all the early days blitzkriegs people complained about. Personally i can live with the weather being "real" variable..it adds alot of uncertainty. sadly,it also seems to drive anumber of people nuts as well.
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:01 pm
by Feinder
Madras, India
CURRENT CONDITIONS
70°F
(21°C)
Clear
Rel. Humidity: 85%
Wind: NE at 4 mph (6 km/h)
Sunrise: 7:04 AM
Sunset: 6:43 PM
Barometric Pressure: 29.99"Hg (F)
5 DAY FORECAST
Tuesday (sunny)
89°F (32°C) | 70°F (21°C)
Wednesday (sunny)
86°F (30°C) | 69°F (21°C)
Thursday (sunny)
86°F (30°C) | 69°F (21°C)
Friday (sunny)
88°F (31°C) | 71°F (22°C)
Saturday (sunny)
88°F (31°C) | 72°F (22°C)
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:35 pm
by Tophat1815
It ain't the rainy season there now is it?
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:51 pm
by Thilo
Sounds like english weather in india. Wasn't india british at that time? Maybe it clears after a japanese invasion?
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:37 pm
by BossGnome
well, I've had a bunch of thunderstorms in china for 2 weeks straight... I kinda like it though, it limits airstrikes by both sides. Once I had to wait for about 2 weeks for the weather to clear enough so I could launch some planes, and that was in the afternoon phase, it having rained all morning...
RE: weather in india
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:06 pm
by Sneer
2/3 days are thunderstorms
last time I had clear weather in china was 3-4 months ago
crazy
airstrikes are launched but ops losses are high
RE: weather in india
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:59 am
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Feinder
I think it was said basically there is a "roll" each day, something like
0 - 2 = Worsen
3 - 6 = Same
7 - 9 = Improve
However, for CBI the zones are marked with a -1 so the table is something like
0 - 3 = Worsen
4 - 6 = Same
7 - 9 = Improve
This tends to "pull" the weather towards rain etc. It means that there is a 70% chance that the weather will be the same or worse. So bad tends to stay bad. Once you're in the "rain" catagory, there's only a 30% chance to pull yourself out of it. And even if you do, there's a 40% chance that you'll fall back into rain.
I don't know what the actual percentages are btw, just giving example.
This would seem to be the case in the game. Evidently the Designer(s) had heard of Monsoons, but had no idea that they were cyclical. Had they made May, June, July and August -1; while making November, December, January, and February +1 they might have had something. Of course, that only applies to the West of the Malay Penninsula in the area effected by the SouthWest Monsoon in the Indian Ocean. In the South Chine Sea it's exactly the reverse from the NorthEast Monsoon. The research in this game is horribly disappointing.