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effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:39 pm
by niceguy2005
Anyone know if there is a difference between MSW, DMS, PG, PC and DD in sweeping mines?

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:42 pm
by Mike Solli
Don't know. I use MSW as much as possible, but the others you listed occasionally will destroy 1-2 mines. I don't like to risk them though. I usually use the other types when they run into an unknown minefield.[X(]

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:44 pm
by tsimmonds
MSW and DMS use their minesweeping gear. PC, PG, and DD sometimes use paravanes and machine guns, sometimes use their hulls.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:45 pm
by Feinder
MSW and DMS are most effective. Benefit of the MSW ships for clearing fields is that, they respawn if they miss one...

-F-

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:49 pm
by Sneer
I think they are immune to mines only when tasked into minesweeping TF
my opponent lost DMS terror to type 88 mine laid by subs

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:53 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: irrelevant

MSW and DMS use their minesweeping gear. PC, PG, and DD sometimes use paravanes and machine guns, sometimes use their hulls.
This is what I thought. Thanks.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:55 pm
by Mynok

AP and AK will use their hulls pretty effectively too.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:08 pm
by ny59giants
I use the MSW mainly as the Allies and reserve the DMS to going along with the BB TF to prevent them from running into minefields. Ouch!!
Since DMS are the only one's with speed over 30 knots, they are valuable to keep for this task only.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:49 pm
by madflava13
ORIGINAL: Sneer

I think they are immune to mines only when tasked into minesweeping TF
my opponent lost DMS terror to type 88 mine laid by subs

I know MSWs were immune in UV, but I do not believe they are in WitP... IIRC, I've seen MSWs hit mines in fields I've laid on several occasions in my PBEM game...

Of course I could be making that up... Too tired from work to remember correctly!

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:37 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Sneer

I think they are immune to mines only when tasked into minesweeping TF
my opponent lost DMS terror to type 88 mine laid by subs

That might be because the Terror was a mineLAYER.[:D] Or did you mean DMS Trevor perhaps?

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:00 am
by Sneer
Trevor of course - my mistake - I'm devoted Japanese player and don't need to know allied side as good [;)]

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:30 am
by acmejeff
Anyone have an idea of how many mines an MSW can clear in one turn?

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:21 pm
by Feinder
I don't think it's a fixed NUMBER of mines. I think it's a percentage. Judging by how long it takes to clear the larger fields, I'd guess it was something like 5% per minesweeper per turn. It gets down to a certain number (maybe 20 or less), and then the next turn it's gone.

Not positive, I haven't formally tested it yet.
-F-

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:05 pm
by ny59giants
How come there isn't a way to find out how many mines you have in either a base hex (the enemies) or shallow sea hex?? [&:][&:]
I have been laying mines on the southern tip of NG to either force the KB or any Bombardment TF to go further to reach PM, but would like to know how many I have there.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:53 pm
by Mike Solli
Take the base, then you'll know.

RE: effectiveness of minesweep ships

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:57 pm
by Nikademus
MSW's and other mine dedicated craft are best at sweeping mines quickly and avoiding a boo boo. (in one game i've swept hundreds of mines with MSW's....i've yet to have one suffer an "accident" and hit one)