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Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:27 am
by Monter_Trismegistos
Anybody tried to add Thailand navy?
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:03 pm
by el cid again
Yep. Could not get permission for CHS. Look for it in RHS. I am something of a fan of RTN. I even saw the Ratanakosindra once long ago.
I might put in some of the RTAF as well. Not sure it will work?
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:09 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
I simply need info on endurance/fuel and their durability.
Would be nice to see additional 4 armoured gunboats, 1 old destroyer, 7 torpedo boats, 4 submarines, 2 gunboats and 2 minelayers.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:19 am
by el cid again
I simply need info on endurance/fuel and their durability.
Would be nice to see additional 4 armoured gunboats, 1 old destroyer, 7 torpedo boats, 4 submarines, 2 gunboats and 2 minelayers.
I have a set of MS Excel files with data on all Japanese and Japanese allied ships - in much more detail than WITP uses - built over 35 years.
The range and actual fuel capacity and cruising speeds are of course given. These lists include things as small as ships boats and fuel barges - whatever ship you want - I have it. Anyone who wants something from these lists send an email address to
trevethans@aol.com with details of what you want (there are several - I will send the ones you need - RTN does not need carriers for example). These lists also include merchants.
Broken down by nation and service.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:39 pm
by Bradley7735
You'll have to find 20 japanese ships to exclude in CHS or RHS if you add in those 20 Thai ships. I'm not saying you should or should not add them. I'm just pointing out that CHS filled up all available ship slots for the Japanese. If you want to add any ship, you must find one to take out.
bc
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:05 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
For my own non respawn version actually I need to find additional ships to cover unused slots. Sadly I found many duplicates in CHS database, so these are even more of them.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:47 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos
For my own non respawn version actually I need to find additional ships to cover unused slots. Sadly I found many duplicates in CHS database, so these are even more of them.
Be careful Sir. Many of the apparent duplicates are valid. It is quite common for a name to be used for multiple ships, especially across the fleets of multiple nations. Considerable work has gone into CHS to verify that all "duplicates" are valid. There were three Dutch ships named
Bantam, for instance, and the Japanese frequently re-used ship names (especially when replacing early war losses).
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:31 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
Well re-using ship names is a kind of respawn. I make decision to not include smaller and auxiliary ships which inherited their names. So only US CVs, CAs and CLs will be added but with changed names.
About other duplicates with same date of arrival, in most cases of duplication ship of certain named type is duplicated by ship of generic type (like Small AP, Large AK). I assume these duplication are simply mistakes. Contrary if both duplicates are of certain named type I am going to keep them all, but to avoid confusion changing name of one of them adding No.2 to their name.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:16 am
by bstarr
ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos
Well re-using ship names is a kind of respawn. I make decision to not include smaller and auxiliary ships which inherited their names. So only US CVs, CAs and CLs will be added but with changed names.
About other duplicates with same date of arrival, in most cases of duplication ship of certain named type is duplicated by ship of generic type (like Small AP, Large AK). I assume these duplication are simply mistakes. Contrary if both duplicates are of certain named type I am going to keep them all, but to avoid confusion changing name of one of them adding No.2 to their name.
If you're making a non-respawning mod
and not including ships with duplicate names then you're really shorting the japs on several ships.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:59 pm
by Monter_Trismegistos
Not several and only merchies.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:34 pm
by bstarr
Maybe AKs, but I'd leave the APs alone. The Japs need as many as they can get. Well, at least the jap AI does. I guess a Head to Head or email game might not be so bad.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:01 am
by Monter_Trismegistos
Well as I think Japan dont need many APs in 1944/1945...
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:56 am
by m10bob
Here is a site for their navy.
The torpedo boats are modern, Italian built!
(Still no room in the OOB's),,
http://warships.web4u.cz/typy.php?language=E&stat=SIA
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:17 pm
by el cid again
Be careful Sir. Many of the apparent duplicates are valid.
Don is quite correct about this. In fact, some duplicates should be present but are not.
RE: Thai Navy - anybody tried to add?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:20 pm
by el cid again
You'll have to find 20 japanese ships to exclude in CHS or RHS if you add in those 20 Thai ships. I'm not saying you should or should not add them. I'm just pointing out that CHS filled up all available ship slots for the Japanese. If you want to add any ship, you must find one to take out.
There are large numbers of slots given to auxiliary gunboats, auxiliary minesweepers and auxiliary sub chasers. These should be deleted anyway - they are entirely overrated by the system (which seems unable to tell them from proper vessels- auxiliaries are defined as = to the real vessels - and for Japan this is quite false). So there are plenty of slots.