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ORIGINAL: String

Given her size, I'd say A LOT! More than the Zuikaku i'd say.

ORIGINAL: el cid again

Note, however, that Shinano was not intended to be a regular carrier. The version finally built had an air group of around 42-45 planes. I have interpreted her air group as 16 fighters (A6M5), 18 Dive bombers (D4Y2) and 9 Torpedo Bombers (B7A2) for a total of 43. This based on the compliments of planes in the unit formed for her, plus the way planes were organized at that time (16 fighters was the new fighter "unit" - and 9 remained the bomber "unit"). This was the second carrier design - the first one probably had no more than the fighter unit. Her intended role was "support aircraft carrier" and she was to carry many disassembled planes, much ordnance, and workshops to repair planes - to support a whole force of other carriers. Since the code does not permit this to occur, we decided to turn her into a "simple" carrier. Note that in the new CHS you get to choose if Shinano is completed as a battleship or a carrier. In RHS you get to choose as well - but by a different mechanism: if you play 41CV you get the carrier; if you play 41BB you get the battleship.

ORIGINAL: el cid again

If Shinano was turned into a regular carrier - she is not efficient for her size because of the battleship magazines - she could carry about 120 aircraft of which about 96 could operate. Andrew and I (independently) came up with a system of not counting the stored planes (which were counted in some previous mods, including CHS, but no more) - so in the next CHS and also in RHS Shinano should be rated at 96 planes. There is no problem with sortees. It is all electrons anyway.

Note, however, that Shinano was not intended to be a regular carrier. The version finally built had an air group of around 42-45 planes. I have interpreted her air group as 16 fighters (A6M5), 18 Dive bombers (D4Y2) and 9 Torpedo Bombers (B7A2) for a total of 43. This based on the compliments of planes in the unit formed for her, plus the way planes were organized at that time (16 fighters was the new fighter "unit" - and 9 remained the bomber "unit"). This was the second carrier design - the first one probably had no more than the fighter unit. Her intended role was "support aircraft carrier" and she was to carry many disassembled planes, much ordnance, and workshops to repair planes - to support a whole force of other carriers. Since the code does not permit this to occur, we decided to turn her into a "simple" carrier. Note that in the new CHS you get to choose if Shinano is completed as a battleship or a carrier. In RHS you get to choose as well - but by a different mechanism: if you play 41CV you get the carrier; if you play 41BB you get the battleship.

ORIGINAL: Iron Duke

Hi,

Shinano has 513 aircraft ordnance [sorties] in stock scen 15 with cap of 48 a/c

if you want to increase/decrease the sorties you need to go into the editor / ship classes / slot for shinano / in the device table go to wpn slot 20 and changr the figure under Armor

note if the ship has an upgrade path you need to change them all to the new figure

also refresh the shipclass in the SHIPS database

cheers

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Be aware too that she can't have an airgroup bigger than around 98-99

but if i have my facts right it would have taken the Japs a long time to produce enough armour plate to complete her(Around 45/46)? So it would have been more realistic to complete her as full cv, went for an airgorup of 99, 33 fighters, dive bombers and torp bombers.

Be aware too that she can't have an airgroup bigger than around 98-99

If you go over it, your airgroups will appear in game with a squadron size of 9 each.

I would think leaving her integral air groups total up to 46, while the ship has an overall capacity of 96 would be a good solution.

If the player wants extra's on board, they will probably have to use a capable rather than trained squadron, and, if I recall correctly, integral squadrons have some form of bonuses too.

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

you might want to double check that. I'm at work so can't verify but i think its 98. Check my mod.....that number's the max number. If you go over it, your airgroups will appear in game with a squadron size of 9 each.