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Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:37 pm
by niceguy2005
I am looking for the specific variant and its mission at the time. Probably a piece of cake for most here, but I found it interesting.

RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:51 pm
by niceguy2005
I should note, this is NOT a world war II variant.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:46 pm
by niceguy2005
I have either stunned you all into silence or bored you to sleep with a slightly OT pic. [&:][;)]
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:51 pm
by scott64
B-26A?
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:51 pm
by scott64
B-15?
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:55 pm
by Dixie
A-26 / B-26 Invader? It looks like quite a late version, is it one of the Farm Gate a/c?
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:58 pm
by mdiehl
A-26 Invader in her SEAsia-VietNam War colors. Gunship/night gunship mission capable.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:59 pm
by treespider
YB-26K byOn-Mark Engineering COIN variant
No google this time
" ...,the On-Mark Engineering Company, which had been converting B-26's for commercial use, obtained a USAF contract for a COIN variant (counter insurgency) variant, the YB-26K. The airframe was strengthened... Provision was made for a greater internal fuel load and permanent wingtip tanks were fitted"
Source: The Illustrated Encyclopedia of 20th Century Weapons and Warfare, Vol 13
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:03 pm
by niceguy2005
A-26 it is, but not from the farm gate operation.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:10 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: treespider
YB-26K byOn-Mark Engineering COIN variant
No google this time
Close enough, YB was the prototype of the A-26-K. A refitted variant of the A-26 which operated in SEA in the early 60's, at times under a covert program. The K variant was introduced with a modified fueselage and reinforced wings - apparently prior to the K, with the load outs on the missions the A-26 were flying, pilots were tearing off the wings performing manuevers. The version was introduced in 1966 and flew thru 1969. I have found NO note on the effectiveness of these planes which were used primarily for attacking supply convoys on the Ho-Chi_Mein trail.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:31 pm
by panda124c
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:40 pm
by niceguy2005
Thanks pbear that is a great link. I was thinking earlier about how the 50's and 60's in particular seemed to dominated by air forces that flew a HUGE variety of highly specialized AC. It must have made maintenance and support a real nightmare. How do you find a qualified mechanic to work on a modified P-63 King Cobra?
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:44 pm
by castor troy
Eisenhower thought about dropping nuclear weapons on the Viethminh??? [X(][X(]
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:09 pm
by Przemcio231
The French beged the US to Bomb the Viet minh Divisions laying Siege on Dien Bien Phu and one of the project was to drop a nuke in the valley...[:D][:D]
French underestimated Viet Minh and overestaminated their own Fire Power well the same errors were repeted by the US 15 years later...
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:22 pm
by panda124c
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
Thanks pbear that is a great link. I was thinking earlier about how the 50's and 60's in particular seemed to dominated by air forces that flew a HUGE variety of highly specialized AC. It must have made maintenance and support a real nightmare. How do you find a qualified mechanic to work on a modified P-63 King Cobra?
The P63 is the easy one, what about getting parts for the Nakajima Ki 43-II-Kai or the Aichi E13A1 "Jake".[:D]
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:00 am
by Copper
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
The French beged the US to Bomb the Viet minh Divisions laying Siege on Dien Bien Phu and one of the project was to drop a nuke in the valley...[:D][:D]
French underestimated Viet Minh and overestaminated their own Fire Power well the same errors were repeted by the US 15 years later...
Actually this is untrue. The French were defeated many times by the Viet-Minh during their conflict. The U.S. however never lost a battle to the enemy.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:07 am
by DuckofTindalos
They still underestimated their enemy and overestimated their own firepower...
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:20 am
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: Copper
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
The French beged the US to Bomb the Viet minh Divisions laying Siege on Dien Bien Phu and one of the project was to drop a nuke in the valley...[:D][:D]
French underestimated Viet Minh and overestaminated their own Fire Power well the same errors were repeted by the US 15 years later...
Actually this is untrue. The French were defeated many times by the Viet-Minh during their conflict. The U.S. however never lost a battle to the enemy.
The US may never have technically lost a battle, but at the end they were still fighting hard just to maintain a perimeter around Saigon. ALso, the French couldn't field nearly the size army the US ended up committing to Vietnam. What did the US end up sending about 250,000?
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:38 am
by 2ndACR
Peak strength was a little over 500,000 troops in 1968.
Couple million troops served in Vietnam all total.
RE: Name this relic
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:44 am
by tsimmonds
The U.S. however never lost a battle to the enemy.
Thereby demonstrating that battle is not all there is to war.