Making a new formation

[Deltadog]

I am trying the create a new formation for a wishbone play. My problem is that when I place the TE on the LOS, and try to set him right next to the tackle, save the formation and create and save a play. When I go to practice the TE is split out at least 1 extra hole width from the tackly. See below.

R2------LT-LG-C-RG-RT---TE

I have gone to the extreme of placing the TE right on top of the RT and he still is too far from the tackle when the play appears on the practice screen.

Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so have you found a solution. I have tried the align left button with negative results.

[nmleague]

I dont think you can get him closer, when I have made formations with a TE I put him right next to the OT, which on the PDS looks like the same split as between the OG and OT. But when I practice the play or in the game the split is wider.

[Magnum357]

I think I have notice this aswell. It is not a lot, but the TE does seem to be farther away from the Offensive Linemen then how the PDS screen shows. Perhaps its a mechanism too keep the TE and Linemen from bumping into each other during a play? Anybody know if this extra width really effects game play much?

[cbelva]

I noticed this several weeks ago. I was concerned at first, but to me it does not seem to affect the play at all. What seem to affect the TE the most is whether he is big enough to handle the lineman/linebacker. I have not looked at it real closely, but it seems to ok on game play.

[nmleague]

Formation making with the PDS is frustrating. Last night I was trying to make a Wishbone formation, however there is no way to get 2 HB into the game, also what about a formation with two TE and two R (FL). I did a work around for the wishbone, but it would be a pain to have to set up the depth chart for every formation and put HB in the one R spot that is playing the HB position in the Wishbone. Ah for the good old days of FPS, you could easily create the formatons with the player positions you wanted in the formation.[:(]

[frunky]

there is a file I can't think of the name right now
I think it's teampos.dat you can open it with notepad and add the players there

Im not sure if it'll work I just opened it and added the punt formation for 8 man plays.

I'll check it when i get home

[Deltadog]

I also noted that one could not add a second Hb or TE. My thinking was to stick R2 in as the second TE and either use the strongest one available or to always run to the side with the regular TE. As far as depth charts are concerned it appears to me that, every formation used has to have its own depth chart. If you assign your playbook to a team and then access that team in the depth chart, it calls for a seperate chart for the Poir and the TW formations as well as the defensive and special teams formations. Of course if you don't set up these depth charts the compter will stick someone in, but who know who it will select.

For the HB I was thinking that I would use R1 and stick in the one the closest to the HB.

Now I have run into another problem with the PDS. For example, I take the QB and give him beginning logic Move to next point. I then set the next point and have him hand to the FB and then move to the next point. At the last point, I have him block. I do all this and go back to the original location to make certain that correct logic is there and instead of move to nearest point, I get the block command that should have been to the last point. I click on the last point and there is no logic. I then click on the first point and there is no logic and to make things worse, it is still sticking in additional points every time I click. Nothing I do gets the logic to stick at the point where it was originally placed and nothing I do deactivates the add command points function. Previously when I made a play I did not have these problems, but now every time I start the PDS this happens. It is not limited to just the QB, but happens with the HB, FB, and receivers as well. I have tried hitting save after each commands point and have tried setting them up without saving and nothing changes.

[nmleague]

Delta are you clicking the save button at each command point? I have found that if I add commands, not save, move to the next command point etc. with out saving that the commands can be lost. I dont mean saving the play, but clicking the save button to the right of the command lines.

For the wishbone formation here is what I did. I have the TE to one side and the R1 as the SE to the other side. Im using R2 as one of the halfbacks in the wishbone. I created plays with this formation with R2 primairily a blocking back or receiver out of the back filed. Then I created a second formation just like the first accept the HB and R2 have switched postions. And then I created the running plays using the HB again.

[Deltadog]

Yes, I have done it both ways. (enter the command and hit the save button) and (enter the command and not hit the save button.) The results are the same regardless of what I do.