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I just installed Gangland after checking the outside of the box carefully. No mention of Starforce anywhere. Guess what? Yep, it included Starforce. I uninstalled the game, but how do I make sure it took Starforce out? I saw on the recent lawsuit that it does not always remove Starforce when you uninstall the game it came with. I do not want this POS on my computer! Help!!!!!!1111




Goblin[:(]

what is this starforce ,? some extra I should be concerned with that might have come on the sudden strike disk?? help me out goblin?? RT

There is a starforce removal tool that you need to run to get the crap off your computer. You can find it easily if you google for it, but I think it can also be found on the starforce website.

what is this starforce ,? some extra I should be concerned with that might have come on the sudden strike disk?? help me out goblin?? RT

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forum ... hp?t=39795

I don't know if all of it is true, but I am not taking any chances. I want it off. I went to Starforce's site, and they have a contest for anyone to prove its true. You have to take your PC to their office (in MOSCOW). So, time off work, pay for the trip, and trust THEM to admit any of it is true. If they admit any of it caused problems on your PC, they pay for the trip, 2 days lodging, and give you $10,000US. If THEY admit its true. They state that the lack of anyone taking them up on it is proof that Starforce does nothing to a PC at all.[8|] I think it is proof that no one trusts them to admit anything, and cannot afford to just jaunt over to Moscow and risk the cost of doing so just to get sent home with a 'Honest, it wasn't our product...'[8|]

There are alot of claims from spyware, to damaging CD/DVD drives, to interfering with other programs. Just don't want to risk it. At the very least, the part about not disclosing that Starforce is there in the first place is true.


Goblin

ORIGINAL: petdoc

There is a starforce removal tool that you need to run to get the crap off your computer. You can find it easily if you google for it, but I think it can also be found on the starforce website.

I did find it, but others state it only reomves a part of it, and leaves other parts. Dunno if true or not, but I almost believe it. I think the official site hosting the tool removal basically tells as much.

I just did a reg cleaner and all my spyware hunters and didn't see any reference to starforce on any scans and looked in the properties of the disk and hope they don't have any affiliations with this cause the game seems to be working and its not screwing up anything else so far,, knock on wood.[&:] RT

To make sure yoo have deleted the Starforce device drivers, go to Control Panel, System, Device manager Select the View Menu and tick SHOW hidden Devices. Look in NoN-Plug and Play, if starforce is listed there after using the removal tool, just delete the Devices.

There are many rumours going around concerning Starforce, my main objection to it is that I was not asked for permission to install it and was totally unaware of its presence until AFTER I installed the game.

Cheers

Jevvy

Starforce can damage your hard drive. I won't buy a game using Starforce. [:-]

Jevhaddah,
Followed your instructions, did not see anything that read starforce. What would be the identifying call letters, if it would be in a short form?

After selecting View Hidden Devices, look in the Non-plug and Play section of the Device list and look for:@

Starforce Protection Environment Driver (version 1.x)
Starforce Protection Helper Driver (version 2.x)
Starforce Protection Synchronization Driver (version 2.x)

Its in alphabetical order so if this does not show up then yer fine[:)]

Cheers
Jevvy

Thanks for the info JEV, I followed your instructions and found nothing, like ZAP, and everything is still running thumbs up so I'll watch, play and see,... Becoming as addicted to this as SPWAW so cross all your fingers for me,cause this fools gonna beat the game! [:'(] RT

Hey ZAP if u still have the sudden strike II on your machine I'd be interested in doing a multi player of it with you? PM me so we don't have to talk about another game that isn't of the forum, Hope you'd like to give it a whirl.RT

There are two different versions of Starforce out now the older version like the one that came on Gangland and then there is a newer version that I found out about that came on X3:Reunion. The newer version does NOT completely uninstall all the drivers when you use the OLD tool to remove Starforce. I never found a new Starforce remover program, so, I just formatted my whole hard-drive to get rid of it and will never buy any game again with Starforce on it as long as I am aware of it of course, but, now I'm really particular about who makes the game CDV/UBI are totally out and finding out what kind of copy protection it uses. Crap like this almost makes me want to just turn "pirate" and say FU to any game companies that use intrusive software copy protection schemes. I have two wasted CDroms because of Starforce, now my system won't even recognize they are part of the system at all. When I put CD's in them it just keeps telling me "no cd detected blah blah". Certainly glad someone finally is taking those fools to court I hope they get sued for all the money they have or could ever make and $5,000,000 is quite a bit of money if/when they lose.

Gosh all this paranoia!! - What is this thing about spyware?? What terrible things are hiding on you HD?[:D][8D][8D][8D]

I have never had a problem with a starforce game. Unlike coffee which should be banned - fullstop.

Well. thanks for the detection tips... I just checked and I have those files on my system.

However, I've had no problems with my drives so I'm not panicking. I did reinstall some CDV and Ubisoft titles after my last rebuild so I guess that's where I picked it up.

Well, if my system starts acting weird, I'll know where to look and what to uninstall.

Gosh all this paranoia!! - What is this thing about spyware?? What terrible things are hiding on you HD?

It's not the spyware that bothers me personally. It's the possible HD and CD-Rom damage. [:@]

It's amazing that these people have actually gotten money for writing what amounts to a hardware-damaging computer virus!

ORIGINAL: Jevhaddah

To make sure yoo have deleted the Starforce device drivers, go to Control Panel, System, Device manager Select the View Menu and tick SHOW hidden Devices. Look in NoN-Plug and Play, if starforce is listed there after using the removal tool, just delete the Devices.

Holy Crap! I found this stuff on my computer, and I never heard of Gangland!

Clicking on the offending files, I found an option to "uninstall" and then a prompt to re-boot. The only game I can think of where I could have got this is Silent Hunter III which I uninstalled as I don't have the 1024 RAM required to run it.

Is it really gone, or just has it just hid itself somewhere else?

Curious.... I have starforce on my pc also. I never knew about it until I started seeing posts like these. I have never had any problems at all as have been described. The only part that bugs me is that it places it on my drive....but...I've not read the complete disclosures I accept all the time either...

I hate Starforce, makes my machine act a little fickel. I have one game left on my machine with SF and thats about to be trashed. It uses SF ProActive.

The two version are Starforce Professional, that I believe is for CD copy protection, I think thats my understanding & Starforce ProActive which is for E-Commerce activation.

But I understand they both use the same technology, drivers, same same same............everything