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Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:54 pm
by Emilio
Hi to everyone,

Has anyone tried to make several port attacks on 7th December with Surprise Attack? I tried to do against AI, focusing mainly in PH (as historical), Manila (the same groups to bomb Clark Field), and Singapore (the very same groups but making Port Attack).

Well, PH was lousy as usual (2 BBs really heavy damaged and others with moderate damage), Singapore was a nice surprise, since PoW was heavily damaged, but Manila was IMO a complete failure, with 2 SS sunk and some AKs damaged.

There is a better way to do such attack? Just imagine, knocking a lot of SSs in Manila and the British. What a start!!!!

Another question, in some AAR I have read that the mini KB with several carriers is attacking from the first very turn. How can I do that? I've got Zuiho (CVL) and Hosho (CVE) in Hiroshima/Kure, Taiyo (CVE) without any aircraft in Sasebo and Ryujo (CVL) in Palau. It is possible to merge all of them or as many as possible in a more powerful mini KB and use it in the first turn?

And last question, I'm using Andrew Brown map 5.1, much nicer and accurate than default map, but how can I set the imperial flag (Sun with bars) for all of my bases instead the classical japanese flag (just the Sun)?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Regards,

Emilio.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:52 pm
by JJB647
You can get mini KB to attack together by getting them in the same hex. They can all make it near Manila. PBEM opponents usually get upset about multi port attacks on Dec 7th, but against AI who cares.
PH port attack usually doesn't sink any BB's on day one.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:22 am
by ny59giants
It is very seldom that you sink a lot of US BB's on just the first turn attacks. A major factor is the Kate's have only a 25% chance of launching torpedoes on each port attack. [&:] Thus, you will need a few days of attacks to achieve good result. My Jap opponent spent one week launching attacks and sunk 5 BB's with 2 more "barely" surviving. [&o].
For the Mini-KB, you need to send them to the same hex and on turn two from one TF.
Don't have AB's map, so I cannot help you there.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:09 pm
by Mighty Atomu
I actually got some good results by sending a four-CV-force to PH, which achieved similar results as the original six CVs... an it can fight well in case LEX or ENT appear near PH (which is likely in an AI game).

Hiryu and Soryo were split off and sent to Signapore, heavily damaging Force Z at port.

CVLs and CVEs were sent to Manila, supported by LBA. But LBA need to neutralize air power at Clark Field too. I think the priority here is to sink or damage as many Subs as possible.

Mini KB can then stay around to attack the ships that try to flee Manila...

The CVL from Palau should be used to seek and destroy the CL Boise. The Boise is a menace if left unchecked.

I think results should be respectable.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:22 pm
by Mike Solli
I'm reluctant to keep the Baby KB in the vicinity of Manila. They're very fragile ships and the Allies can get lucky. I take Jolo and place some Zeros, Bettys and Nells there. They'll take care of any fleeing ships heading west or SW. Those US ships that flee east (yes, east) from the Philippines can be tagged by Baby KB. It's much safer out there.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:49 pm
by ny59giants
Has anyone split up KB in a PBEM and attacked Manila and Singapore on day 1??

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:35 pm
by Mighty Atomu
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

I'm reluctant to keep the Baby KB in the vicinity of Manila.

I fully agree. That´s why land-based bombers from Tainan need to focus on Clarke and Manila airfields.

Jolo is a good - the best - base to own soon after Dec. 7th.

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:36 pm
by Mighty Atomu
ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Has anyone split up KB in a PBEM and attacked Manila and Singapore on day 1??

Most allied players will have a one-port-only attack rule agreed prior to a game, no?

RE: Several port surprise attack on 7th December

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:39 pm
by Mighty Atomu
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Those US ships that flee east (yes, east) from the Philippines can be tagged by Baby KB.

Those ships should be attacked from LBAs in Legaspi from Day 3 onwards, with a bit of luck.