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Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:58 pm
by Ron Saueracker
In WITP it is still possible to divide Japanese carrier based fighter squadrons into three divisions of 9 fighters correct? Possible because of the 5 unit maximum for carriers, this is handy because it allows much more flexibility...one can provide CAP, escort and LR CAP simultaneously, whereas with only one, LR CAP is an all or nothing practice, hardly useful for fleet carriers to practice.
If this is still possible, can anyone give me a reason why the Japanese should be the only nation capable of this extra tactical flexibility? The USN/RN squadrons can't divide, even if there is room.
I always hoped for a more useful/flexible mission tree for aircraft, something that could allow for simultaneous LR CAP and escort/CAP assignments, ground attacks as secondary missions etc. Oh well...
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:04 pm
by dtravel
In a quick test with the Kaga I was able to divide her 21 plane fighter unit into three 7 plane elements.
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:09 pm
by michaelm75au
Being able to split IJN CV groups is because the group is a "Daitai", not because of the available slots on the CV.
In game terms, only groups of a certain size (group type) can split.
As to why historically, ...?
Michael
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:20 pm
by Herrbear
Based on michaelm's answer, you can just change the size of the carrier squadrons to groups I believe and you will be able to divide them. It won't affect max size or anything else I believe.
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:41 pm
by Ron Saueracker
This is rather unfortunate for the Allied player. So basically a game definition/programming decision has given the Japanese yet another advantage. Hmmm...[8|][;)]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:57 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
This is rather unfortunate for the Allied player. So basically a game definition/programming decision has given the Japanese yet another advantage. Hmmm...[8|][;)]
Not one bite...not even a nibble yet...[:D]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:00 pm
by scout1
This is rather unfortunate for the Allied player. So basically a game definition/programming decision has given the Japanese yet another advantage.
Don't think you really need to worry about the IJN having an advantage in the game. It's rather lop sided by history to start with. Kina like a chess game where one player starts with less than 1/2 of the good pieces .....
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:13 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
This is rather unfortunate for the Allied player. So basically a game definition/programming decision has given the Japanese yet another advantage. Hmmm...[8|][;)]
OK, I'll bite. This was probably done because you play the allies. If you decide to play as Japan, let us know right away.
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:18 pm
by Brady
I am still full so no bites for me.[:)]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:54 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
This is rather unfortunate for the Allied player. So basically a game definition/programming decision has given the Japanese yet another advantage. Hmmm...[8|][;)]
OK, I'll bite. This was probably done because you play the allies. If you decide to play as Japan, let us know right away.
Do conspiracies have a foul smell?[:D]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:55 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Brady
I am still full so no bites for me.[:)]
C'mon...the forum has been quiet lately Brady! Got a headache from paint/varnish stripper so am in the den stirring up poop.
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:47 pm
by Mr.Frag
So Don, did you see the routine Mike put in to automatically make the dice roll worse if running on a machine with Ron's serial number? [;)]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:14 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
So Don, did you see the routine Mike put in to automatically make the dice roll worse if running on a machine with Ron's serial number? [;)]
Oh yeah - I wondered who had that number....
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:27 pm
by Ron Saueracker
Don't tell Bill W (Adm Halsey) or he'll drown in frustration.[X(] I'm kicking his butt in our PBEM despite this handicap.[;)]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:31 pm
by dtravel
What, did you expect they'd get that part right first try Ron? Probably mis-typed the code so that those playing against you get hosed. [:'(]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:33 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel
What, did you expect they'd get that part right first try Ron? Probably mis-typed the code so that those playing against you get hosed. [:'(]
Ouch! Are you past the point of no return and basically succumbed to be bummed?[:D]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:36 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel
What, did you expect they'd get that part right first try Ron? Probably mis-typed the code so that those playing against you get hosed. [:'(]
Ouch! Are you past the point of no return and basically succumbed to be bummed?[:D]
Depends, what are you referring to?
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:10 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel
What, did you expect they'd get that part right first try Ron? Probably mis-typed the code so that those playing against you get hosed. [:'(]
Ouch! Are you past the point of no return and basically succumbed to be bummed?[:D]
Depends, what are you referring to?
Well, this
is the WITP forum, not a relationships or state of the union etc forum.[;)]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:40 pm
by dtravel
[&:]
RE: Ability to divide Carrier fighter squadrons...
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:50 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel
[&:]
My sense of humour is weird today I guess. Is it the game you are bummed at or what?