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Panzer Division Problem

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2000 6:47 pm
by Ronin
Strange thing that nobody asked this before.

I really hate it that you cannot put i. e. Tiger tanks in normal panzer divisions. In 1943 (I think) one regiment of each PD become a StuG regiment. Stupid too for this guy, who dosent produce enough StuGs. And this leads me to the next point: the light TD's. Why the heck I'm not allowed to replace this Nashorns or Marders with Hetzers or even Jagdpanthers? And: when the AI reorganize a TD bde with StuGs, you cannot use your TD pool anymore. Stupid. You should could use that stuff, which is available. And the StuG IIIG is pretty outdated in 1944.

Sorry for my bad english.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 1:16 am
by Ed Cogburn
Originally posted by Ronin:
Strange thing that nobody asked this before.

I really hate it that you cannot put i. e. Tiger tanks in normal panzer divisions. In 1943 (I think) one regiment of each PD become a StuG regiment. Stupid too for this guy, who dosent produce enough StuGs. And this leads me to the next point: the light TD's. Why the heck I'm not allowed to replace this Nashorns or Marders with Hetzers or even Jagdpanthers? And: when the AI reorganize a TD bde with StuGs, you cannot use your TD pool anymore. Stupid. You should could use that stuff, which is available. And the StuG IIIG is pretty outdated in 1944.

Sorry for my bad english.
I know what you're saying, the restrictions are frustrating especially if you've better equipment in the pool. Unfortunately, the restrictions are historical. Tigers didn't go into Pz Division battalions, they went into independent battalions, it was the Panthers that went to the Pz Divisions, and light tank destroyers were handled differently than heavy tank destroyers.

The problem with Stugs is a problem they've discussed on the beta team, the massive numbers of Stugs will hopefully be addressed, before the last update version.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2000 5:39 pm
by Ronin
But I would say, the "historic" reasons were that there were simply not enough Tigers to fill up the Panzer Divisions. If you go that way, you must allow only one Panther reg. for each division. Second Front allowed this. Thx anyway.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 4:47 am
by Ed Cogburn
Originally posted by Ronin:
But I would say, the "historic" reasons were that there were simply not enough Tigers to fill up the Panzer Divisions.
That's true.


If you go that way, you must allow only one Panther reg. for each division. Second Front allowed this.
Well, that's probably what ends up happening anyway, as Panthers aren't that numerous either. So far the problem with the Stug-IIIg tanks makes it difficult to tell what the balance is later in the war. As it is now, Stug-IIIg and PZ-IVj tanks drastically outnumber Tigers and Panthers.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2000 8:32 pm
by peter bogos
Use editwir to change into tigers.
I,II,III,V SS Panzerdiv(Pzgren-43)hade the 8th panzer company whit tigers until 101,102 and later 103rd SS Hvy pzbat. was formed.
Later Pzdiv G.D had a thrid bat.whit tigers.