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Question on making templates

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:14 am
by dreamtheatervt
I am trying to make some templates for my running game, so I can quickly recreate the same running play from different formations. I was wondering if there was a way to create a template with multiple players, i.e. HB, FB, and QB?

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:34 am
by David Winter
Hi.

I'm not quite sure what you mean... You want to create a template with more than one route on it?

David

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:01 pm
by dreamtheatervt
I want tp save what a group of people do, as in save the HB, FB, and QB routes all into one template. I think the answer is no after playing with it, but I figured I'd check.

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:27 pm
by Marauders
I want tp save what a group of people do, as in save the HB, FB, and QB routes all into one template.

Heh! If you did that in the real world, the defense would take your players' heads off after viewing the scouting films.

Easy isn't always better.

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:47 pm
by dreamtheatervt
ORIGINAL: Marauders

Heh! If you did that in the real world, the defense would take your players' heads off after viewing the scouting films.

Easy isn't always better.

Actually, it's done all the time in the real world. Teams can run the same play out of different formations. Being able to run a base offense from multiple formations is very important because the information you gain from seeing the defense make adjustments allows you to make better play calling decisions later. For example, an offense will run HB iso the same way regardless of where the 3 receivers (TE's and WR's in any combination) line up. However, the defense may align differently for a pro I set versus a twins set (2 WR's opposite TE), so it may be advantageous to run some runs with one formation, and others from another. It's just like interchangable parts on a machine, you can build a large rushing repertoire by running the same plays out of different formations.

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:08 pm
by nmleague
Very true. Also most teams will run a series of plays that have they same exact backfield movement but with different players being the primary ball carrier.  The early Dallas Cowboys under Landry were known for running their base play series out of a large variety of formations with movement.

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:02 pm
by Breeze
Didn't someone mention something like this as a way to simulate the option?

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:29 pm
by Deltadog
I mentioned something on this order.  It was suggested that the same play be in the playbook with the QB running one version, pitching another and passing the third.  However, no mention was made of making a template.  The possibility did not cross my mind.  I was thinking of simply designing one of the three plays and editing it twice more to make the needed change.  If more than the three were needed, it would be an advantage to be able to save a template as is described above.  However, it that is not possible just make the basic play and edit it as necessary.

RE: Question on making templates

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:41 pm
by Marauders
For example, an offense will run HB iso the same way regardless of where the 3 receivers (TE's and WR's in any combination) line up. However, the defense may align differently for a pro I set versus a twins set (2 WR's opposite TE), so it may be advantageous to run some runs with one formation, and others from another. It's just like interchangable parts on a machine, you can build a large rushing repertoire by running the same plays out of different formations.

Very true. Also most teams will run a series of plays that have they same exact backfield movement but with different players being the primary ball carrier. The early Dallas Cowboys under Landry were known for running their base play series out of a large variety of formations with movement.

The question was regarding receiver routes and not running holes. While teams do set up similar pass patterns from different sets, from pee wee to pro, having exact copies of plays for differing formations gives an advantage to a defense if there are not a multitude of alternate patterns set up for those formations. From a defensive standpoint, being able to scout many plays at one time makes things easier - especially for the safeties.

The assumption here was that an easy route was being taken to creating a playbook, which would make the job of defensive coordinator much easier. If the playbook is more robust and dynamic than that, then there shouldn't be a problem.