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Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:53 pm
by rtrapasso
OK - here is a question that has come to mind?
What is the most "functioning" torpedoes a ship has been hit with and eventually made it back to port, or if in port, did not sink at its moorings?
By "functioning", i mean torpedoes that hit a ship and had full-order explodsions (not fail to explode, not "squib" explosions.)
Don't give example like "ship x was hit by umpteen torpedoes, but didn't sink until it was hit by umpteen plus one"... Ship has got to survive the experience without settling to the bottom...
EDIT - Oh, yeah - i'm talking real life here, not WITP...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:02 pm
by Terminus
1 or 2, probably, but I have nothing concrete to base that on...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:03 pm
by Przemcio231
West Wirginia?? neee to easy... it must have been a warship of some sort...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:04 pm
by Terminus
And West Virginia wasn't a warship?[&:]
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:06 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
West Wirginia?? neee to easy... it must have been a warship of some sort...
I think WeeVee sank at her dock, so she would be disqualified...
Offhand, i can't think of anyone who took more than 2 real torps and made it out without kissing the bottom... there were ship with multiple DUDS that survived, but they don't count.
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:06 pm
by Przemcio231
well SMS Seydlitz was hit by a torpedo and 2 mine's + over 20 heavy shell's and she was still able to make it back to Port... i saw her pictures i think that was the badly damged warship that did not sink...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:07 pm
by Terminus
The WeeVee ate 6 torpedoes on 12/7, but she did sink to the bottom of the harbour; luckily, she sank on an even keel, due to counterflooding, and didn't capsize like the Oklahoma.
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:09 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Przemcio231
well SMS Seydlitz was hit by a torpedo and 2 mine's + over 20 heavy shell's and she was still able to make it back to Port... i saw her pictures i think that was the badly damged warship that did not sink...
not going for mine hits here - just torps... i have no idea what the answer is, i am trying to find out...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:31 pm
by Nikademus
Seydlitz didn't hit two mines at Jutland
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:34 pm
by AmiralLaurent
Some WWII example.
CA Kumano was hit by a torpedo fired by DD USS Johnson on 25 October 1944 in Battle of Samar, then hit by 2 torpedoes fired by submarine off Luzon on the 6th of November (4 subs fired 23 torpedoes at her, who hit her is controversial) and was still afloat in port on 25 November when she was finally sunk by TF 38 aircraft.
During the Taiwan battle in October 1944 the CA USS HOuston was torpedoed twice in 2 days and reached Utithi two weeks later.
BB Yamato was hit by two torpedoes fired by SS USS Skate on 25 Dec 1943 and reached Truk the same day.
So surviving two torpedoes was possible. I have not yet found example of surviving 3.
In WITP I once hit the CV HMS Formidable off Sumatra with 4 or 5 torpedoes and not even try to chase it, as I was sure it was doomed. It reached Ceylon and was saved...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:35 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent
Some WWII example.
CA Kumano was hit by a torpedo fired by DD USS Johnson on 25 October 1944 in Battle of Samar, then hit by 2 torpedoes fired by submarine off Luzon on the 6th of November (4 subs fired 23 torpedoes at her, who hit her is controversial) and was still afloat in port on 25 November when she was finally sunk by TF 38 aircraft.
During the Taiwan battle in October 1944 the CA USS HOuston was torpedoed twice in 2 days and reached Utithi two weeks later.
BB Yamato was hit by two torpedoes fired by SS USS Skate on 25 Dec 1943 and reached Truk the same day.
So surviving two torpedoes was possible. I have not yet found example of surviving 3.
In WITP I once hit the CV HMS Formidable off Sumatra with 4 or 5 torpedoes and not even try to chase it, as I was sure it was doomed. It reached Ceylon and was saved...
4 or 5 torps? With FOW on or off?[X(]
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:36 pm
by Terminus
Sounds like two is about the maximum...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:40 pm
by niceguy2005
Was it the Nevada that beached itself at PH?
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:41 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Sounds like two is about the maximum...
i found at least one AO that survived 2 in the Atlantic. i think a couple of merchies took 2 and made it, but i can't think of/find anyone that took 3 and didn't have a bad "ending" shortly thereafter.
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:42 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
Was it the Nevada that beached itself at PH?
Yeah - i'd count that as a "sink".
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:42 pm
by Terminus
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
Was it the Nevada that beached itself at PH?
Yup. Tried to exit the port, was hit again, and then beached itself to avoid blocking the channel.
She also took two torps, as well as some bombs.
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:51 pm
by Nikademus
Neveda was only struck by one torpedo but her flooding difficulties were compounded by the accidental flooding of her rear magazines + it was discovered that her armored deck was not watertight which caused slow progressive flooding to spread. A bomb hit in her forcastle blew a large hole in her side that eventually shipped water as her bow trimmed.
And yes...no battleship ever took 3 to 3+ torps at sea and lived.
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:53 pm
by Terminus
I thought I read in her DANFS entry that she ate two fish? Oh well, the point is moo...
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:53 pm
by Feinder
I can't find anything surving more than 2 torps.
-F-
RE: Torpedo Magnet "Record"?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:57 pm
by Nikademus
surviving more than 2 was possible but since events rarely happen in a vacuum there was often other circumstances that led to the demise.