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If Ron will hurry it up we can get started. Ron is modifying the CHS 2.04 senario 155 and I am sitting around waiting for him to get done. He probably is out drinking or somthing. [:(]

This will be my first PBEM game as the Japanese in a long time. I started one about 15 months ago, played one turn, sank 4 or 5 BBs at PH with some others and my opponent quit. [:@][:@][:@] ( surprisingly, we tried a 3x3 team game that also went one turn due to a password problem and I sank 5 BBs in that one too. [8D][:)] ) So, if I don't sink 5 BBs on the 7th of December, I will be upset. [:D]

I will need to make sure Ron stays out of this thread.

My overall plan is to attack and take New Zealand after clearing the usual PI, DEI and Malaya. I want to cut Australia off from the USA and make Ron try to advance using CV air cover. After taking New Zealand I will try to take some of the other South Pacific islands to make his job even harder. [:D]

Ok, ron sent me the files. This is a modified CHS 155 version 2.04 senario. Ron has changed it to a non respawn senario. House rules that I am aware of ( mostly first turn things )

1. No Japanese invasions in the PI on the first turn, only on Batan Island

2. I am going to attack Pearly Harbour.

3. No port attacks against Singapore or Manilla.

4. 50% CAP maximum on CVs

5. Kwantung(?) and/or CEA units must pay PP costs to move out of area.

There probably were more, but I can't remember right now.

So, we are playing with:

Auto sub ops OFF

both sub doctrines OFF

Allied Damage control OFF ( Ron asked for this )

+/- 15 day reinforcements.

PDUs on, but no poopy stuff( rons words )

Enough of the prelims, time to get down to war. [:D]

Hell, I have no idea what to do as the Japanese. [&:]

1. No major changes to production. Most likely: increase Nakijma engines a bit and increase arms production some.

2. I have no plans to attack Russia.
2a. I have no plans to attack either the CONUSA, Australia, or India. I also want China to be a big stalemate for a while.

3. What to do with KB? I am thinking that after the PH attack, a trip to the South Pacific might not be a bad idea. I might be able to catch some transports and maybe a CV taskforce or two. [;)][:D]

4. I will need to capture the prime areas( PI, DEI, Malaya ) as fast as I can without taking too heavy of losses. ( This is probably everyones intention [:)] ) I need to ponder how much force I need to capture all of New Zealand.

Well, to work on turn 1. [:(]

Any house rules on Jap ships/subs in the channels to the off-map bases (Panama and Middle East)??

None that Ron specified. He has said before that he wants his IJN opponents to do that. we will see. [:D]

I hope someone will come along and tell me some secrets of Japanese production. [&:][:)] ( Hint, Hint )

And while we are at it, how does the aircrew training work in CHS now? So many questions. [:(][:'(]

??? Are we done?[:(]

After a false start, we are on again. First turn has been sent to Ron. this is the small list
of house rules I sent to him:

House rules for Ron's game:

Russia:
1. If I am going to attack Russia, I will activate 30 days prior to the actual invasion.
2. Neither side can move any other units across the border and no air strike missions
( includeing sweeps ) can be flown across the border. Only CAP and Recon.

Kwantang units stay there unless PPs are spent.

China Expeditionary Forces stay in China unless PPs are spent.

No IJN naval movement through the Malarca(?) Strait until Singapore is taken by
the Japanese.

Japan will not bomb stratagic targets in China( Oil, Resource, HI ) unless/until
the Allies base 4 engine bombers in China or until January 1944.

PDUs are on, please use some discresion.

What else Ron?
Question: Dec 8 attack by KB on Pearl Harbor? ok? no? you tell me Ron( no answer is a yes).

During testing, once there was no PH attack on Dec 7th( I have no idea why ). If that
happens I will ask for a redo( seems kind of silly to not have a PH attack ).

First turn rules:

1. KB attacks PH

2. The only invasions I have planned for Dec 7th are East coast of Malaya, Batan Island.
all others stay at least 4 hexes away.

Let the war begin.

I tested my turn a bunch of times( it has been over a year since I worked out a first turn for Japan ). The best I got was 4 BBs sunk and a couple times, none. [:(] We shall see what happens.

I forgot to add this and had to send it to Ron separately:

Ron, I forgot to say that I expect you to do almost nothing for your first turn. You can give
any existing TFs orders and any units assigned to China. All others are off limits.

ken

Well, Pearl Harbor was not what I was hoping for:

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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 114,72

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 90
D3A2 Val x 149
B5N2 Kate x 157
E13A1 Jake x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged
D3A2 Val: 11 destroyed, 65 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed, 31 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 15 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 5 destroyed
B-17D Fortress: 2 destroyed
P-26A "Peashooter": 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 9 destroyed
C-47 Dakota: 5 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
A-20B Boston: 3 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 7 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 27, on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 23, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 4, on fire
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 2
DD Henley, Bomb hits 1
DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 18, on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 19, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Aroostook, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Trevor, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW Turkey, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 1
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1
DD Downes, Bomb hits 1
DD Dewey, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Laida, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Airbase hits 39
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 93

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
28 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 9000 feet
27 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
28 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 9000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
21 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
15 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
20 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
21 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 9000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
28 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
24 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Only one Kate unit used torpedoes, the rest used 800kg Bombs.
Only one BB sank, I forgot which one. I look it up later. It was the Tennessee, she had a mag explosion.
I have decided to stay one more day and see if I can sink more.

The rest was low key in keeping with Rons requested first turn. I took
Batan Islands and started landing at Kota Bharu.

Report for 12/8/41:

My second day at PH was a bust, weather closed PH for the AM so my Kates decided to not fly. My Vals did bomb the airfield. That is it for PH, KB has other things to do. I am moving KB toward the South of Wake to support my landings there.

An airborne assault was successfull in taking Tavoy, I moved a Nell daital and I am airlifting in a IJNAF base force to support it( and some torpedeos [:D] )

Kota Bharu was taken, seems Ron vacated the hex(?). Now I have Army bombers and fighters at Singora and Kota Bharu.

An airborne assault was ordered for the next turn on Jolo. A Base Force is on transports and are two turns away.

I have a Brigade and 2 Armor Btns landing at San Fernando(I hate senior moments)( the escorts took a bunch of hits [:@]) Landings this turn at Viagan also. Next turn landings start at Naga, Tuguegarao, and Davao. Mini KB( 2 CVL and 1 CVE ) is patroling South of Mindinao between Jolo and Davao, should be some good targets next turn.

SNLFs and NLGs are loading at Palau for assaults on Menando and Kendari, supported by mini KB and a 2 BB surface fleet( Fuso and Yamashiro )

The 4th Div is loading and moving toward Cagayan.

Darn it, that San Fernando thing is going to hurt. Lost an MSW that turn and will lose more PGs, PCs, and MWs. Might lose an AP or AK also. [:@]

I did put 4 - 250kg bombs onto CA Houston and mini KB is between her and safety [:)]

It looks like Ron is running with all of his troops toward Singapore. I am a bit disappointed, I thought he might use a few of them to slow me down( and be a bit more historically minded ). I believe that Alor Star is empty of troops, moved the 5th Div, 2 ARM Btns, a combat ENG, and 4 ART units that way.

Both San Fernando and Vigan fell today. That lets me put some small dive bombers on Luzon and more importantly, some Nates and Oscars. they are not much, but they do help.

The air assault on Jolo was also successfull. I have a base force two turns away and some extra supply
is just a day out. That will allow me to again base some fighters and dive bombers there to close off and surround the PI.

Guam is Japanese now, I am loading the South Seas Detachment back up to move it either to Kwajalein or Truk.

My covering forces sank 7 PTs around the PI. That should lessen that problem a bit. [:)]

Well, a turn or two of moving supplies and getting all my units landed and then more movement.

report for 12/10/41

I guess this is not my game - bad luck is what I seem to be having:

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12
Vildebeest IV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Torpedo hits 1
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Neither BB should sink, but they will be in for repairs for a while, and I could use them. [:@]

But the Hong Kong operation is going ok.
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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29014 troops, 183 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 550

Defending force 17378 troops, 118 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 313

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese max assault: 600 - adjusted assault: 793

Allied max defense: 277 - adjusted defense: 1720

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese ground losses:
409 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
464 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1
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Tuguegarao fell today also( undefended )

Naga should fall in a day or two, I am unloading supplies( the tf didn't move as fast as the troop tf ?)
A small force is in Legaspi to take it also.
Davao should fall the next turn and that will complete the surrounding of the PI. Picture needed?

Report for 12/11/41

This is getting stupid, is this crap normal?
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 16
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 5
Buffalo I x 14
Vildebeest IV x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Haruna
CA Atago

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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No matter what, the damn bombers get through and score hits? Is there a disgusted smilie?
Has the CHS group completely neutered the Nates and Oscars? I know they were not great
aircraft but damn. My feeling is that the game engine is not adjusting the bomber accuracy
downwards enough.
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Onwards and upwards I guess ( need to put Zeros in any base an Allied bomber can reach - I don't have that many [:@] )

Davao and Legaspi fell, Landings on Wake.

Wuchow will not last too long:
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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24014 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 514

Defending force 13456 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 249

Japanese max assault: 531 - adjusted assault: 395

Allied max defense: 224 - adjusted defense: 207

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
221 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
351 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
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Hong Kong operation is going fine

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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28578 troops, 175 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 530

Defending force 16829 troops, 106 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 296

Japanese max assault: 244 - adjusted assault: 173

Allied max defense: 242 - adjusted defense: 223 His AV went from 277/1720 to 242/223? [X(]

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese ground losses:
215 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
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Aloe Star also fell( undefended? )

ORIGINAL: Nomad

Report for 12/11/41

This is getting stupid, is this crap normal?

Yes, those RAF planes can be deadly. Death by a thousand cuts. I lost Haruna on day 4 to Swordfish...

If this is what CHS is like, this will be my one and only game of it. [:'(]

ORIGINAL: Nomad
No matter what, the damn bombers get through and score hits? Is there a disgusted smilie?
Has the CHS group completely neutered the Nates and Oscars? I know they were not great
aircraft but damn.

You are playing scenario 155, in which the aircraft are virtually the same as they are in stock, except for a minor tweak here and there. So A2A results should be pretty much the same as in stock. No aircraft have been "neutered".

Andrew

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: Nomad
No matter what, the damn bombers get through and score hits? Is there a disgusted smilie?
Has the CHS group completely neutered the Nates and Oscars? I know they were not great
aircraft but damn.

You are playing scenario 155, in which the aircraft are virtually the same as they are in stock, except for a minor tweak here and there. So A2A results should be pretty much the same as in stock. No aircraft have been "neutered".

Andrew

That is not really a 100% true statement Andrew. From the CHS documentation on your site:

The maneuver rating of the Ki27 and Ki43-1 has been lowered. For whatever reason Matrix made the Ki43-2 with a lower maneuver rating than the Ki43-1, so the Ki43-2 has been given an extra maneuver point. I [Lemurs] found no evidence to say the Ki43-2 was in any way worse than its predecesor.

I looked at the two aircraft in both a Andrew modified stock and in CHS. The Ki-27 Nate lost one point of manouver.
The Ki-43-Ib lost 2 points of manouver and 21 MPH from top speed - oddly it gained 3 points of durability.

I need to go back and see how the Buffs, Stringbags, and Wildebeasts changed.

OK:

Buffalo I lost one manouver gained 2 durability and 22MPH on top speed

Vildebeast lost 2 manouver gained 3 durability

Swordfish gained 8 durability.

My first assesment is not so much that the Nate and Oscar have been neutered but the relative changes have made them even more worthless than they were to start. And more importantly from my viewpoint, a lot worse than the stock senarios.

ORIGINAL: Nomad
That is not really a 100% true statement Andrew.

Well, I guess ot depends on whether the changes are interpred as tweaks or neutering. My interpretation remains the former. If you do compile good evidence of aircraft - of any type - not performing as you think they should, please present it here in the forum and maybe Mike (who did the aircraft changes) can take a look at it.

Andrew

AAR closed

I doubt I will find any more Andrew.