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New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:34 pm
by Tanaka

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:38 pm
by pauk
damn! this means no WiR for a couple years....


[:(]

July 13th, 2006 - A World Divided . . . . . . (Page 8/8)
So we’re sorry to say that our next crack at the Russian Front is still several years awa

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:51 pm
by wild_Willie2
An UV update ????, why not incorparate this "feature" in WITP ???

Imagine: enemy Carriers sighted!!!, slow down to 15 minute turns and control your CAP/strike packages and targets every 15 minutes.... [X(][X(][X(][X(][X(][X(]

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:03 pm
by Big B
Where did you see anything lke that Willie?
I surfed the link and didn't see anything about UV, or carrier battles[&:]
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

An UV update ????, why not incorparate this "feature" in WITP ???

Imagine: enemy Carriers sighted!!!, slow down to 15 minute turns and control your CAP/strike packages and targets every 15 minutes.... [X(][X(][X(][X(][X(][X(]



EDIT: never mind - I saw it on page 7

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:25 pm
by wild_Willie2
read yourself

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RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:58 pm
by BrucePowers
It will now take forever to finish the game.[:D][:D]

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:21 pm
by rockmedic109
Too bad about WiR. But I am going to need that time to complete a WITP campaign.

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:26 pm
by dtravel
Wonder how they're programming the "Zero Bonus" into that.

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:03 am
by Raverdave
[X(]  Whoa !

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:07 am
by captskillet
Just as I suspected.........they are going to revamp Gary's Carrier Strike but you need to incorporate into WITP not UV (why get just a smidge of the PacWar we want the whole enchilada !!)

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:34 am
by Akos Gergely
I hope they would incorporate some surface action into it as well.... :D

I have never had Carrier Strike, is it any good?

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:16 am
by Sneer
they looked at ground combat model and decided they are not capable to do it right so WiR is off schedule and they stay with carriers battles which work fine[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
good decision IMO

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:04 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: csatahajos

I hope they would incorporate some surface action into it as well.... :D

I have never had Carrier Strike, is it any good?

In its' day, it was a "must have"..It allowed you to determine what your planes would carry, and if they got to the target area and did not see ships, you could make them loiter, or re-direct them to another area.(Had to be wary of fuel consumption too because (totally unlike WITP), the CS pilots would actually follow your orders, (as in real life)........
Too bad few designers have ever served in combat arms to comprehend that!

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:37 pm
by Feinder
Putting it back into UV, means potentially breathing new life into it.  UV+ will likely not be just a free upgrade off the site.  It sounds like carrier strike is scenarios, and may not or have a limited campaign.  Whereas, if they build it into UV, they get the benefit of dynamic campaign, that is dependent on the players strategy.
 
Putting something into WitP seems to be a little more problematic, because the hexes are 2x larger (so 15 minute intervals means less), and folks have already squawed at the cost, so paying for an upgrade would just invite more moaning.
 
I think putting it into UV makes good business sence.
 
That's unfortunate about WiR tho.
-F-

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:35 pm
by Sonny
Dang! I am really in the mood for a WiR game right now. Having to wait several years is gonna kill me.[:(]

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:39 pm
by Joel Billings
The War in Russia game is using a totally different design than WitP, so putting it on hold has nothing to do with the land combat engine. The issue is that there are several new routines and a lot of new interface to write for WiR, and that's time that Keith doesn't have now. UV/Carrier Strike was a project born based on the ability of Mike and Gary to do work on it without Keith's time. They chose UV instead of WitP because of the 30 mile hexes which is much closer to the 15 mile hexes we would ultimately have in the new Carrier game. The 60 mile hexes in WitP are not good for a detailed carrier game. Some WitP features will no doubt make their way back into UV during the development of UV/Carrier Strike.

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:58 pm
by panda124c
Now if they will do the same for Surface Combat, or maybe that's the next evolution.
Torpedos fill the Slot, crusiers exploding, ships burning.......[&o]

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:42 pm
by Zakhal
ORIGINAL: csatahajos

I hope they would incorporate some surface action into it as well.... :D

I have never had Carrier Strike, is it any good?

You can try it now:

http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=177 (includes manual and 1946 addon)

It doesnt have the graphics of WITP but its still enjoyable.

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:34 pm
by Ursa MAior
It is compulsory for you! The hypotetical campaign rocks! In most occasions I finished enemy crippled carriers in surface action.

RE: New Tactical Carrier Battle Games on the Way

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:01 pm
by whippleofd
ORIGINAL: Zakhal
ORIGINAL: csatahajos

I hope they would incorporate some surface action into it as well.... :D

I have never had Carrier Strike, is it any good?

You can try it now:

http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=177 (includes manual and 1946 addon)

It doesnt have the graphics of WITP but its still enjoyable.

Thanks for the link you provided. Now if I may trouble someone for some tech help. When I unzip the file, I get a Cstrike.arj file. What do I do with it? I would imagine I would also need to get sometype of DOS immulator since I'm running XP?

Thanks ahead of time.
Whipple