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How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:23 am
by pvj
Question from a newbie
Am running the Jap side. Time Jan 44.
My evil allied foe is trashing me everywhere with zillions of 4E bombers. But in China I have him down to one last base and have 350000+ men closing in - he will have app 175000+ men and level 9 fort, 450+ planes bombing me every turn. His fighters are keeping me from stopping supplies comming in from India by air. It will be very difficult to take the base.
Question; will bombardment by land forces destroy his airfield and/or stop reinforcemnet and/or destroy his supplies?
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:24 am
by Terminus
No.
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:23 am
by Roger Neilson II
I suspect you are talking Chungking here, in my experience its impossible to take - repeat impossible - if he has any sizeable force there. You cannot stop supply coming into it and the force multiplier for a fort level 9 plus terrain makes it impregnable - I have tried!
Bombardment won't touch the airfield.
Roger
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:32 am
by pvj
I have Chungking - it´s the one inland from it (name?)
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:32 am
by Gen.Hoepner
You can easlily take Chungking, but not without the air supremacy above the city. Just try to mass every IJA bomber you have and send a great strike. You'll lose zillions of fighters but some 200 Sallies are able to close the AF...then keep on bombing it, no matter how many planes it will cost you...that's the only way imho
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:36 am
by pvj
I have lost app 15000+ planes so far - no problem - It is the trained pilots I need

RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:56 am
by AmiralLaurent
Artillery fire won't destroy supplies the way air raids do, but will consume some as 1) Chinese guns will counterfire 2) Chinese squads will be disabled and will use supplies to return to normal state 3) possibly artillery fire will rise the disruption and fatigue of the defending units and more supplies will be used to restore then to a better state.
If Chengtu (probably your target) is a hornet nest, rather than try to close it you may try to close the base from where fly the transport (probably Ledo or a nearby base). It will probably have less fighters on CAP and in both raid periods (morning and afternoon), all transport AC will be considered by the game to be on the ground, they only fly in the air transport phase. So if you send 2-300 bombers on their base you may destroy a majority of the transport AC based here. It will at least reduce the activity of the groups for some days. You may even be able to close the airbase.
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:15 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
You can easlily take Chungking, but not without the air supremacy above the city. Just try to mass every IJA bomber you have and send a great strike. You'll lose zillions of fighters but some 200 Sallies are able to close the AF...then keep on bombing it, no matter how many planes it will cost you...that's the only way imho
tell that Sneer!!!! [:D]
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:46 pm
by Nikademus
tell it to me. JoeW is driving for the coast in my game. I am the very image of a modern Major General.......
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:02 pm
by niceguy2005
Chegtu may be winnable, but it won't be quick. You will have to win the air war to do it though. Then tons of engineers to take down those forts one level at a time. Then aerial bombing to bring supplies to zero. You will basically have to starve them out....its the only way with massed Chinese troops.
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:53 pm
by RUPD3658
Can't starve Chegtu. It gets 300 supply automatically per turn even if you bomb out it's resources and industry.
RE: How to close an arifield
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:03 am
by JeffroK
"You can easlily take Chungking, but not without the air supremacy above the city. Just try to mass every IJA bomber you have and send a great strike. You'll lose zillions of fighters but some 200 Sallies are able to close the AF...then keep on bombing it, no matter how many planes it will cost you...that's the only way imho "
And the Jap fanboys complain about abuse of Allied Heavy Bombers!!!