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PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:39 pm
by Nemo121
I know this has been covered elsewhere and I've used search but can't for the life of me find the info...

What fighter mission takes out PT boats? I find myself in the position of needing to sweep Burma/DEI and the Hawaiian Islands clear of PT boats rather rapidly in a current PBEM and naval attack at 100 feet (which I thought was the order) hasn't, over the course of 2 days, resulted in a single attack on PT boats by my Zeroes so am I to use a different order?

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:42 pm
by pauk
yes, IIRC it is 100 ft naval attack. Did your recon planes spoted enemy PT boats?

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:43 pm
by Sardaukar
Indeed, it's 100 ft strafing attacks. But doesn't that cause the infamous sync bugs in PBEM, for example ?

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:44 pm
by Sneer
it worked fine for me
100ft naval
no cap duty for any of pilot at same time however it should work too

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:50 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Indeed, it's 100 ft strafing attacks. But doesn't that cause the infamous sync bugs in PBEM, for example ?

Yes.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:02 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Indeed, it's 100 ft strafing attacks. But doesn't that cause the infamous sync bugs in PBEM, for example ?
Yes, it can cause the bug

Strafing PT Boats will take some number of days to take them out completely. You can also send in DDs if you have air cover.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:15 pm
by Sardaukar
Small DD TF does bad things to PT TFs, as far as I have tried. Well, destroyer was torpedo boat destroyer anyway...[:D]

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:35 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
Yup 100ft attacks work well , but i am leery of using DD's as one torp and its a valuable unit. also for some reason PT's fire 50 calibre ship sinking rounds into DD's too.. grrr

How about using PG's ? or spare MSW's as they come back at least.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:38 pm
by Sardaukar
Yea, PGs and MSWs work well too. Just about anything with more than machine guns works.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:44 pm
by pauk
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

Yup 100ft attacks work well , but i am leery of using DD's as one torp and its a valuable unit. also for some reason PT's fire 50 calibre ship sinking rounds into DD's too.. grrr

How about using PG's ? or spare MSW's as they come back at least.

Agreed. That's why i sent DDs only against small numbers of PT. I cant affort to risk losing DDs in such a cheap way...

Yeah, .50 calibre and DDs are funny thing - especially after you have seen that enemy transport wasnt sunk after two torps; or 6 250kg bombs.... i will never understand that...

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:49 pm
by Sardaukar
Maybe .50 cal always magically hits torpedoes and depth charges on DD...[:'(]

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:31 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

Yup 100ft attacks work well , but i am leery of using DD's as one torp and its a valuable unit. also for some reason PT's fire 50 calibre ship sinking rounds into DD's too.. grrr

How about using PG's ? or spare MSW's as they come back at least.
I think its a matter of urgency. If you just need to supress PT boat activity in an area then AC attacks are good for this. But if you absolutely need to clear an area you have to use surface ships. I find DDs best all around for this activity. You can loose one but usually they will take out the PTs no problem.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:32 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Small DD TF does bad things to PT TFs, as far as I have tried. Well, destroyer was torpedo boat destroyer anyway...[:D]

Use the Otori and Tomozuri classes for that. They've no depth charges or Long Lances, but more than enough gunpower to take care of PT boats...

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:25 pm
by treespider
I prefer a CL with 3 DD's for my PT boat TF's...DD's without the CL are more vunerable.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:06 pm
by Nemo121
Ok, I'll try it again... Basically I can't really commit my DDs and CLs to the mission since most of them are either covering the Malaysian invasion TFs ( and follow-up waves), the landing at Palembang or the landings at Hawaii... Well, to be fair, most of the forces covering the Hawaiian invasions are badly beaten up. I've lost about a half-dozen ships there and another dozen warships in almost sinking condition ( combined damage well over 60) in vicious night fighting against enemy cruisers, destroyers and even DMs and DMSes... Its a real kitchen sink affair so I don't have too many CLs to spare ( not helped by the fact that 2 of my 5 CL-led DD TFs were trashed in night-time surface engagements vs Force Z and other Allied surface strike groups.
 
I've taken to calling this one my "Chum Game" after the stuff they put in the water to attract sharks... The reason being that in under 1 week's action naval surface actions have accounted for dozens of ships and tens of thousands of men across the length and breadth of the Atlantic. So, for all of those reasons I need to stop the PTs with fighters OR put off my designs on Rangoon and Andaman for another fortnight ( which I don't want to do).
 
Thanks for the input.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:11 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Nemo121

I've taken to calling this one my "Chum Game" after the stuff they put in the water to attract sharks... The reason being that in under 1 week's action naval surface actions have accounted for dozens of ships and tens of thousands of men across the length and breadth of the Atlantic. So, for all of those reasons I need to stop the PTs with fighters OR put off my designs on Rangoon and Andaman for another fortnight ( which I don't want to do).

Thanks for the input.

What mod are you playing?[;)]

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:22 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

I've taken to calling this one my "Chum Game" after the stuff they put in the water to attract sharks... The reason being that in under 1 week's action naval surface actions have accounted for dozens of ships and tens of thousands of men across the length and breadth of the Atlantic. So, for all of those reasons I need to stop the PTs with fighters OR put off my designs on Rangoon and Andaman for another fortnight ( which I don't want to do).

Thanks for the input.

What mod are you playing?[;)]

Isn't it obvious? He's beta-testing the new detailed carrier ops module for War In The East. [:'(]

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:05 pm
by Nemo121
Terminus,
I could tell you but I wouldn't want to have to kill you ;).
 
Nah, its a typo obviously.

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:55 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
Thats a pity .. BB group with yamato mushashi bismark and tirpitz would see force Z running like ducks on an icy pond [;)]

RE: PT Boat Sweeps

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:49 am
by bradfordkay
"BB group with yamato mushashi bismark and tirpitz would see..."

Winston dying of apoplexy...