STARVATION LEVELS!!

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Can you post the combat reports????
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I'll give it a go, how do I go about it? I've only got the internet in work and have never really done anything like that before. If you Email us the basic I'll try and get it to you a quick a possible.
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Once they are out of ammo, units fight with anything that comes to hand.  I am constantly amazed by the number of Japanese a Chinaman can dispatch with a shovel.  
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ORIGINAL: heenanc

I'll give it a go, how do I go about it? I've only got the internet in work and have never really done anything like that before. If you Email us the basic I'll try and get it to you a quick a possible.

Oh its easy. Combat reports are in your saved file. you just open them and then under edit you click copy. Then you paste it to your forum message.

Bad news is that the combat reports overwrite themselves each turn so if your not saving them or posting to an AAR you have probably lost them all. But that's the way it goes.

I'm just curious what kind of losses you took with 6 deliberate attacks followed by two shock attacks. What kind of condition are your troops in afterwards?

If you reduced 80,000 Japanese surrounded in an urban area that fast then this is news!!!! I don't recall anyone posting such a thing before. Possibly noone else has been willing to take the losses, or perhaps the losses arn't as bad as everyone thinks.

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I have been trying to destroy this RAF Base force outside of Ledo for over 9 Months....[X(]
The 223 RAF Base force had 42,000[X(] troops in it at the start, I have destroyed 20,000 troops so far......Amazing (very sarcastic)...

Japanese 48th Div. - 98 exp 282 AV
Japanese 13th Div. - 98 exp 243 AV
Japanese 55th Div. - 95 exp 452 AV
Japanese 53/B Div. - 95 exp 30 AV

61 Sonias 95 exp

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/03/45

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Day Air attack on 223 RAF Base Force, at 36,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 54
Ki-46-III Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 36,24

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 48936 troops, 101 guns, 2 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 922

Defending force 20090 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 894 - adjusted assault: 900

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 23

Japanese assault odds: 39 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
122 casualties reported

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Minesweeper, which scenario are you playing?
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CHS 125 Brad.
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I'm trying to figure out how that unit ended up with so many troops in it. It's supposed to have about 7000 men. That's got to have something to do with why they're not reducing...
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But it has made good target pratice for my A/C....though I had to move most of them to another area.....[;)]

Most likely, some type of anomaly....when I first went to battle with this Base force it had over 40,000 troops[X(]
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Minesweeper, are you playing against the AI?  And what size airfield is Ledo?  If the answers are "yes" and "big", then I would like to point out that AI support units can have their aviation support keep growing until it can support all the aircraft at the base.  If its a size 9 airfield and that's the only unit there....
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Overall I don't think the troops were affected much at all there disruption stayed below 20 all the time and there fatigue stays below 10. The AV for the units is in the 4'000's.
 
I was losing between 1'000 and 3'000 troops a turn this has stayed constant. Up until about 2 weeks ago game time the hex was getting bombarded by about 12 BB almost every turn (now on the way to SF) and about 200 FF (now airfield attacking that row of 4 airfield that are anoying my convoys)
 
I find in the games that i'm playing that if an attack is successful then you don't lose much disruption/fatigue, for example if you reduce the fort level by one the unit will automatically set it's self to attack again for the next turn and the distruption stay fairly low barly moving. This has happened for me on all my sucessful attacks.
 
Bearing in mind the troops I'm attacking with at an estimate I would say there 300'000 troops there some american and then some australia with tanks brought from Darwin.
 
I did start a new save the night before last so I will probably be able to get you a before (8days ago) and after shot of the situation. Then i'll have another go and post the combat report they have al been pretty much the same.
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It is against my AI game, but the battle is not at Ledo.....it is near it, in a jungle.....
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ORIGINAL: MineSweeper

It is against my AI game, but the battle is not at Ledo.....it is near it, in a jungle.....
Were they driven out of Ledo? I assume they were originally at some Allied base. How big was that base?

At any rate, that would be my guess as to the cause of the BF having so many troops. The AI-only expansion of support units to "fit" the base. Perhaps in a way its not intended to, but.
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This base force might have been well traveled....I believe it was based at Dimapur when it retreated to the location where it stands now.....

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