Cohen vs Enrico - AAR nr. 2

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May / June 1942 - US Moral Victory in Polynesia

The Imperial Japanese Command decided to try to erase the southern threat of the Allies by claiming Pago-Pago.
Quite a bold overextension of their perimeter, but they got exhalted by the conquest of the Fiji where 2 CW CPs fled, and got captured in port (Lucky double 1s. I think I've said that already though as it belongs to previous sessions.).

Seeing that the USA are showing not much interest in the Pacific, the Japanese arranged a screening force (2 cruisers, one per sea, in the sea zones south of Pearl Harbour) to delay intervening US Naval assets, dispatching then a minor task force of two cruisers and supporting submarines in Polynesia.

The grand plan to sever the supply to the islands, and then to storm the place with an infantry division using their famous Tokyo Express!

The US reaction was slow, but so the Japanese were in their unfolding plan. Ultimately, as the shipping to Pago Pago was not stopped, the US managed to sink both the cruisers of picket; to damage another cruiser in Polynesia and shoo away the last cruiser; all of this without losses from their side.



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May / June 1942 - Kunming holds!

Japan hoped to finish the conquest of southern China, storming Kunming with many forces after weeks of preliminary bombing runs.

Ultimately it was a bloodshed, with 2 Chinese units destroyed and as many Japanese. The Japanese lost a Warlord and a INF-Division, the Chinese a MOT-Division and a CAV.

The Japanese have still some troops to assault once again the place, it can turn out costy though for them, and could be wise to wait the next turn - but the Chinese can build the Kunming Militia with BPs they've stocked ... another hard choice.

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May / June 1942 - Operation Sey-Go

The Japanese Imperial Command, in their expansion fever, ontop of still conquering undended ports and whatnot in the isles of the Pacific without facing opposition, deemed favorable to secure the Seychelles - that pesky unsinkable aircraft carrier of the Brits.

The arcipelagus was manned with an Indian TER (2-4) and the fat presence of 4 FTR2; the Japanese had already all their carriers except one in the zone, and enough shore bombing. Their marines were dispatched - alas one of them in an AMPH unescorted in a sea zone (4 movement points, a constrain of the AMPH that started the game) south of Ceylon. The other, modern TPS with 5 movement points was produced later on, and could move in the Arabian Sea, under the heavy escort of 50 ships and planes among Italians and Japanese.

The Japanese launched bombers to force the CW Fighters to take off and fight, or be bombed on the ground. Which happened and the Japanese lost 2 Carrier Planes in the process. Both the bombers - but the 2 CW FTR2 with 3 range got spent and landed back in Seycheless - unable to flee later on. (Air Combats were at 0 for both sides rolling).
Once the Marines were to land - under heavy shore bombing cover and an air umbrella, the remaining CW FTR2 scrambled to intercept the waves of bombers of Japan, sending one of their FTRs as a bomber themselves. This time the Japanese shot down the British fighter, with no meaningful losses by their side, and ultimately conquered the skies with their fighters letting the bombers get to the target except one that was forced back to carrier before the RAF was expelled from the aerial space. (Air Combat started +1 / -1 for Axis favor, turned -1 / +1 as the best Jap fighter got aborted and then the RAF fighter was aborted after their bomber got shot down the first round).
The ground attack did not went as smooth as expected, for the Japanese lost a MAR unit, the Imperial Guard (because it moves 3, meanwhile the other MAR albeit weaker, can move back and forth and seize the grounded FTR2 in the other isles).

The loss table would be MAR + 2 CVP (7 BPs) for Japan, against TERR + FTR2*3 + Pilot*2 (The ones grounded. Total 12 BPs for CW).

That hopefully can give some breathing space for when the Italians will be left without carrier air cover from Japan.

The UK did not sat entirely though, they sailed out with a cruiser task force, which found the lonely AMPH, and was going to sink it, but the cunning Japanese admiral managed to slip away with partial losses of its landing ships (The Brits nailed a X 2D result with their suprise points, the AMPH passed its save at the X, and then at the first D, turning aborted and not being eligible for the last D hit).

That raised to 9 BPs the losses for Japan (accounting the 2 BPs required to repair the AMPH).

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The Siberia-Manchuria Front is entirely static by now, both sides lacking the effective power to push and go offensive. The Soviets started to remove planes, 1 LND4, from the sector to reinforce Europe.

Divisional assets finalized the conquest of Timor, Sarawak, Guadalcanal; and in New Guinea / Papua arrived Japanese units.
There are no Australians in Port Moresby.

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May / June 1942 - Caucasus Front

The Soviets started a counteroffensive, of successful nature, crossing the river where only Persian cavalry was defending. The Soviet tanks quickly overran the cavalry unit and spearheaded to sever the supply to the ArmeeGruppe Guderian. (Which ironically is very short of panzers!)
Soviet mechanized forces exhaust themselves in a forced march in the mountains, but getting close enough to hinder the sought supplies (ZOCing the railway). Also in Tabriz there are 2 LND3 already spent! But as the Soviets lack HQs to reorganize there, and no other unit can get in Tabriz in a single impulse, the Germans are not too worried.

Actually, as the Soviets poured their best units to do this attack, the Germans countermaneuver in the north, returning the favor and destroying a lonely Soviet CAV.

The Turkey joins the war, their HQ serves as bridge for Guderian's supply. And their bomber strikes at Tflis with no effect.
Tflis itself is assaulted by the large Turkish army, to no avail (Turkey loses a MOT, Soviets 1 INF-Div).

Once the Soviets rearranged themselves to protect Baku, Guderian takes a daring gamble, for there is a lonely garrison (6-1 GARR, in the hex with the writing AZER). Guderian and the german Mech attack it - it's a +8 with HQ support and blitz. Defender is shattered, Attacker loses 1 unit and disorganizes half of the survivors (which is none then).

Guderian had to give his HQ support, so would end up disrupted - and is sacrificed for the cause. The Mech blitzes of a long distance, forces to rebase on the way the Soviet FTR2 still operational, and places itself in front of Baku, halting the supply whole of all the Soviets in the zone except these on the coast!

The Turkish HQ reorganizes two of their corps, they can give another go to Tflis as long as the Soviet HQ is alone and disrupted, before new Soviets appear here the next turn.


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May / June 1942 - Barbarossa, South

Impulse #6, Allies still have to move their land forces.

The Germans spent an O-Chit, not to cross the Dnepr, but to force their hand in Crimea (alas they only shattered an INF and INF-Div with their +14 Blitz) there.

The Dnepr was crossed with engineers and massed armour with no losses, which led to encircling more Soviet units in the woods behind the Dnepr (Crossing north of Kiev) that got subsequently butchered in the last impulse.

With the O-Chit the Axis took Stalino as well (the AA retreated from Stalino, as last survivor) before the Soviets could evacuate their factory from there too.

For now the Germans seem unstoppable, and they've not suffered any loss at all in this sector.

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May / June 1942 - Barbarossa, North

Impulse #6, Allies still have to move.

The Finns joined the war alongside the Axis, and promptly moved south from their homeland, and a Finnish Division seized an undefended Murmansk.

The German forces grinded their way through roadbmps left in Novgorod (the one that pulled off from Pskov, a 3-3 INF) and Vitebesk (a 5-1 GARR), and close in to Smolensk.

No losses yet for the Germans. The Luftwaffe is for the most struggling with keeping up with the land forces, logistics, manning airbases, etcetera.

Other facts for Germany:

Lille was bombed again by a Blenheim, which scored 1 hit. Their FTR was spent already so the Brits had free reign to bomb with their remaining LND3.

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May / June 1942 - Impulse #6 Losses:

There are also damaged assets, 1 JAP Amph and 1 JAP cruiser.
Japan an Soviet Union suffered heavily in this turn.

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May / June 1942 - Impulse #10 Destroyed Pool

We played a few more impulses, with alternate fortunes of war; though the Soviet losses have demoralized my pal and he could be calling quits. (If I sum up the losses, the BPs loss is 101.)

By other AARs I've seen, it looks common that Soviet Union is pushed in Siberia or so - especially when left without Lend Lease in absolute terms (and this time it was tried an appeasement policy to speed up US gearing up by not risking anything that could anger the USA).



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May / June 1942 - Caucasus Situation

Baku and the hex west of it are German, thus the lack of Supply to the units there. But with all Germans disrupted in the zone (and my sad discovery that the big ATP I've built reorganizes only on the coast...) they can march to claim back some oil fields at least.

The Turks suffered more losses (an INF) in a low attack at Tflis, in the hope to destroy the Soviet HQ.

Von Bock was quickly railed in the zone from Spain, to take over from Guderian, and led successful attacks first against the disorganized Mech that was threatening the railway; and next a more daring attack against the 7-4 Siberian Corp in order to ZOC Baku's entrance.

The Astrakhan MIL in fact between the two german attacks moved in for the kill of the disorganized MECH that conquered Baku (and returned on the hex west of it), the combat though saw the MECH shattered and the MIL destroyed.

Like a fool I rebased the HE111 in Tabriz, forgetting entirely that it was OOS, with the grand plan to bring up to 2 the combat factor of the MECH.

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May / June 1942 - Barbarossa Ongoing (Impulse #10 - before Allied move)

This is the situation of despair of the Soviets.

In Vohronez there are two spent planes, the rest are ground units.
Moscow has still all the factories, so Tula that cannot be relocated and Kalinin that got seized.

In front of this situation, and with the Caucasus resources on the verge of being lost already, my opponent demoralized (player wise) and feel pointless to keep playing.

Ontop of that, the USA attacked in Argentina and managed to obtain a dreaded 14 - and lost 3 units for a single Argentine one. (The unluck struck the Germans too in a few occasions, but not so deeply. Somewhen half units disorganized, or all units disorganized with a loss for the first assault at Kursk before it got evacuated due to perils to the flanks).



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For you all readers:

Well, I am attaching the save game here. Feel free to have a look, and if you want post short / long term suggestions for the Allies (so my opponent) that he can read.

I'd say to PM him but I am far from being sure he is registered on the forums!

But to put it short, I dread another restart (where I said already I'll play the Allies) without seeing the endgame. So I'd rather have him playing on, but he feels hopeless in Russia and that he'll end defend his Soviets in places he knows the name of just because of playing Risk when much much younger!

I cannot claim to be an expert, but I've seen in enough AARs Soviet Union in dire situation, getting to fight in Siberia and whatnot, and recover well later on when the W.Allied pressure forces many Axis units to the West.

As personal opinions, until now I am not sure of the plan to conquer the South America - but I acknowledge its need if US produces factories earlier on, otherwise these factories won't have resources later on until US start to conquer some stuff.
I believe Chile only though, 1 Nation for 3 Resources, would have sufficed to give that margin of resources / oil til the USA start to grab back the ones the Axis has. (To put it short, if you build factories you want to use them. And USA in '43 has so much stuff moving around that the oil grows short).

Japan is well crippled though, and probably he has not realized the weakness of the Japanese Empire. He traded off Soviet BPs (units and presence) for Japanese ones pratically, until the hammer has fallen hard on the Soviets. He kept pushing for Manchuria, when to seize that single resource on the borderline would have sufficed. I assume he hoped to weaken the Japanese more (which he did) but was not able to afford the payoff.

Soviet Union - I think Persia is a must to be taken - just to shield your Caucasus from the south. It will delay US of 1 turn / 1 chit, sure thing. But it's worth the shot in my eyes.
And I keep telling him Soviets need Lend Lease, or they cannot manage (at least by how he plays).

The W.Allies not pressing Germany enough? That I could give as true, but we play with no Defensive Shore Bombardment and with Limited Oversea Supply (and I'd not play with any of these rules - but we agreed to that mutually, the first is silly by how the game works. Any hex on shore is pratically an Allied fortress otherwise; by how the Naval System works -- Limited Oversea Supply is just silly to not play with, otherwise it would be extremely hard to put out of supply -anything-).
Thus the W.Allies need - as they should - good air cover on the seas, and good air cover for their land forces. It's mid 1942, the USA did not even landed yet in Marocco by the current in-game Turn, speaking of historical references.

Thus, I let you people, if you want, write suggestions. Do you think the Allies are screwed royally over? What can they plan and do on the long run to turn the tides of war?

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Last Hour Update:

After some talk we'll start over from a save picking up the Land Movement of Allied Impulse #1, of May / June 1942; to not start from scratch a new game and / or have bad vibes. (After all once I lost 3 units of Germany in Poland the first turn because a 2 was rolled and another attack went bad, and asked a restart already; so I understand the situation to a good degree).

So - there will be a chronological jump back for the AAR.
Also we'll have soon a 2-3 weeks break due to holidays and vacations.
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Please try to prevail on him not to throw in the towel - there is still everything to play for.
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Well it is sporting of your opponent to try a little bit more; particularly after that USA strategy you should see what happens. But even electronic games increasingly bog down when you have divisions, guns, and Planes in Flames in play, as the number of counters on the map just gets higher and higher. The Essex class CVs seduce many an American player into ignoring what is happening on the map, and the pride of Joe Stalin fighting on for far too long in the Far East does the same. Combine those together and this is what you get. When the Euro-Axis starts building CVs and factories, war comes to some interesting places on the globe.


Very nice job getting some of KiF counters into the game somehow though.
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Not many advices came to my friend; alas he's not even listening to me.
I'll post the final outcome of the remade sessions - we got to mid July - August, and May / June '42 even ended with a 1, when it was to end only with a 1! But the Soviets are in very bad shape nonetheless and their production is reduced to Italy level ... figure out.

I remain in the case that the Lend Lease is a must, though the current routes are either arctic (to Archangel if it does not fall to German hands; and to the small ports in the Far East area - since Murmansk, Persia and Vladivostock are all in Axis hands).
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As far as I can see: what advice can still be given?!
The allied situation is hopelessly lost, since Russia is doomed and the axis firmly control Gibraltar and Egypt and the Middle East and there are no visible allied threats to any of those vital area's.

About Russia: I would even go as far as to say that in order for the allies to present a challenge to the axis, Russia needs to maintain an income every turn that is the equivalent of at least 24 operational factories. If/when their production falls below that, the allies must lend lease resources and/or BPs to compensate.
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Well there is a starting build up in Spanish Sahara - but hardly a threat yet I dare say.

I fully agree the situation for the Allies is not pink (nor is for Japan admittedly, due to losses suffered in China and Soviet Front) - but Euro Axis is very strong.
On the other hand to keep rebooting games in '42 - '43 after such time investment is not exactly something I look forward, and I believe some '44 '45 practice is required to my buddy to see how much the USA turn into a Powerhouse (and to use them in combination with the UK).

The USA are producing 60 already, so by Nov / Dec '42 they'll hop to 75 like once they go up to 1.5 multiplier. (And they'll take as extra Factory the one in Buenos Aires).
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Situation at Start of Impulse #7 of Jul / Aug 1942 (Allied Impulse)

The Germans left a screen to Baku - the Persian MIL (which is closer to its own supply source in good weather) and an SS INF; enough to discourage attempts of breakthrough from the garrison of Baku. Probably though I should switch the SS INF with the Mech (Main difference is that the INF is White Print meanwhile the MECH is not).

Not that currently the Soviets have bombers in the zone or hope for a breakthrough - but they've within Baku a 7-5 MECH, a 6-1 GARR and a Gar-Div.

In the northern side of the Caucasus the Germans slowly advanced, assaulted the mountains defended by only 1 INF and retreated it, and subsequently destroyed said INF and a CAV in the hex south of Grozny; blitzing into the Oil Fields.

Note that Stavropol and Armavir are Axis already.

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Start of Allied Impulse #7 - Jul / Aug 1942

The remains of the Red Army stagger and retreat, too little forces to stop the German onslaught.

If the Dices will be favoring the Soviets, the turn will end prematurely and they won't lose their planes which have been spent early on to slow down the Germans, when the Soviets had more troops and bigger hopes.

Through May and June and the impulses of Jul / August the Soviets fought to protect their factories, not always successfully - had to their luck the fact that May / June ended with 1 - when it was the Axis Impulse, 7th. So litterally they had the shortest possible May / June ever excluding the "double impulse jump" weather rolls.

On top of that, the German main crossing of the Dnepr, an attack with +11.x Blitz, got a roll of 3, which meant lots of panzer and panzergrenadier requiring reorganization. Though to achieve a stronger central defence of the Dnepr the Soviets left thinly manned the southern part and DneprCity, which fell at once.

To keep the Germans slowed down the Soviets screened Stalino and maintained their position at the Dnepr, and Stalino fell. Then they had to start to run. Because of a HQ and a MIL moving only of 2 - the Soviets favored to retreat in good order and keeping cohesion.

The Germans with the use of bombers and panzers attacking in the open plains slowly whittled away units to the Soviets, a bleed that has grown critical on them to the effective lacking of troops to perform a proper defence.

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Start of Impulse #7, Allied, Jul / Aug 1942

Moscow has just fallen the previous impulse.

The Germans advanced pretty smoothly, with most of the Soviet forces concentrated in the Dnepr zone.

The single O-Chit the Germans used (out of 3 total, now 2 remaining) was for a SuperCombined, to bring the Luftwaffe (that was sitting for the most still in Poland!) upfront. In order to achieve the needed preparations for Moscow, the previous Impulse the Germand did not operate in the air at all, and rebased 4 of the short range planes mid-way, so that with the rebase of the SuperCombined they were to get in position.

Moscow was a puzzle for the Soviets, to defend it or to not defend it. A change of mind in their plans revealed possibly lethal, because they could have started to evacuate the forces there with 1 impulse of advance, and they did not. They opted to save what they could too late - and pratically the only real survivor is the Garrison that was railed out (You see in the screenshot below!).

The 5-6 MECH, and a 7-4 INF (now destroyes, where the 5-4 FIN got after the advance after combat, with lots of panzers and Manstein blitzing of 2 hexes) at least screened Gorki's factory - but with Stalingrad and Saratov to be moved too the Soviets do not have a good production perspective (admittedly mainly due to their resource issue).

Moscow had 3 units - and there I think I did a mistake, because when the 3rd unit was to either Shatter or Retreat I opted to Shatter: as I did not advanced yet after combat, the stack north of Moscow was seen still in supply and tricket me. Because then a GAR retreating would have dropped to 3 Combat Factor since it would have been out of supply. Well - I've gifted to the Soviets 2 BPs! - As you can see by the spent planes, (and there is a 4th Stuka under the 8-4 INF west of Moscow), the Soviets there got pounded heavily by the air; ENG unit helped across river (and against factories) and VonBock gave direct support.

The Soviets face the shadow of a big hole opening, a highway to Siberia for the German panzers led by Von Manstein.

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