opnn (CP) vs operating (E) finished

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Turn 22

Suez

This turn concentrated my attacks on the Turk cav, but in hindsight I had a better plan in the offering and that would have been to slip the garrison with the commander to the hex just northeast of the Turk cav, but I think I did not do that is because that garrison's efficiency was down and would have been subject to much counter attacks. As it was: It was hard just knocking his cav down to a 7 strength, even with fighter assist. Naval bombardment did score some hits which always help. Moved the rested Brit infantry to Ismaillia to attack next turn and deployed a fresh fighter squadron to Port Said. With the additional air-power I'll be able to rip his guys apart in succeeding turns..

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Turn 23

Gallipoli Campaign begins

For those who might be confused as to when this campaign begins, here's the event:

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Turn 23

Serbia Surrenders

What this event causes is a -10 NM to all Serbia's allies. It was a conditional surrender meaning whatever hexes and so forth that was in Serbian control stays Serbian and whatever armies it has left stay on the map as the country effectively goes neutral due to the surrender. The English cav that survived the surrender is repatriated to the English production queue at full strength and updated to the latest tech it is eligible for. Opnn captured Triana before accepting the surrender offer. Even though this was an Entente defeat I feel it accomplished the mission of drawing his forces to where it will take AH considerable amount of turns to bring his armies to other fronts. Italy being my prime concern..

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Turn 23

North Baltic

I think I took my first surface fleet casualty in the red circle with the green dot being the Russian pre-dreadnaught fleet. I felt lucky to have had my dreadnaught and armored cruiser escape to home ports to fight another day. Sub fleets are taking up the brunt of the action once again blocking German surface fleets from breaking through one way or the other, his sub fleets are a different story, although they are taking hits from the sub killing Russian balloons. 2 crippled subs are trying to evade detection, the English one was heading south, but ran into a hidden German sub, decided not to attack it making my presence known and the other, a Russian sub headed north for I believe there one or two 1 strength German fleets out of LOS hiding up there. Personally really enjoying this naval combat aspect of this match[:)], of course it looks as though I am winning and the mission to stop the flow of supplies has been effective.

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Turn 23

Gallipoli

Having sufficient friendly navy handy is crucial to having any success with the Gallipoli landings and maneuvers..!! High Command changed plans to go after Izmir instead of Gallipoli itself, first was to eliminate a safe port for CP fleets and cut off this city from railing in reinforcements, secondly, it gives my fleets a place to repair once captured. Decided to send a third infantry transport to Italy which enters the war on turn 25, put a naval protective ring around this transport for it's an unknown as to how many enemy subs are out there? Naval bombardment is a must to taking either one of these cities in this region.. Commanders add their combat stats to units also.. Have to say this campaign looks promising..[;)]

[nehi]

but serbian surrender did -13NM

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ORIGINAL: nehi

but serbian surrender did -13NM

Ya know, I think your right..!! I rechecked Surrender Events: Sure enough it says it should only be -10 NM to allies.. Going to have to ask Robotron about this outcome..?

[nehi]

u dont have to, its usually 13

http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 02&t=71827

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ORIGINAL: nehi

u dont have to, its usually 13

http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 02&t=71827

That was quite the conversation in that thread, although it did not specifically address the Serbia issue.

[nehi]

did serbia+minsk -16NM (most likely 13+3 or 12+4)

i tought there was exactly 13 for serbia in that conversation, it has to be somewhere else then, but anyway 13 is standard

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I'm a hard numbers guy, when it comes to all the gobbly-gook calculations that change hard numbers, it just goes over my head and do not spend my time dwelling on it, perhaps I should, but the calculations just skewer how the events scripts that contain data says what it should be..

[nehi]

http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 19&start=0

but its related to that russian one conversation

there is more than hard coded nm loss, as ive tried to explain to u on paris example at steam

maybe losing of that nations manpower in alliance pool, i can just guess, but 13 is pretty common result for serbian surrendering

in later scenarios is ai able to finish it, so ive seen it many times

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Turn 23

Sarikamish

Made a small investment here to see how opnn reacts to my flanking maneuver.[8D] Have been making alternating attacks on his left flank degrading the Turk cav there. Clearly Erzurum is vulnerable to being captured next turn. If I am not mistaken 2 fresh units deployed near Sarikamish and a garrison on my right flank is under repair. Where is opnn going to prioritize his resources? Here or at the Palestine front?[&:]

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Turn 23

Suez

Came close to killing off The pesky Turk cav with air and ground attacks. Improved my right flank on the Sinai and held other units in reserve for upgrading and repair. English navy sailed out of the Red Sea and the other fleets here kept up shore bombardments. I don't recall what happened to the Turk infantry that was here, I may have destroyed it or it escaped, what I don't see here either is a Turk Commander..![:)]

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Turn 23

CP Preparations

Spotted CP preparations to invade Italy with English balloon. Bombed the German artillery and AH infantry causing some loss but more to knock their efficiency down. 2 English units disembarked at Nice, that originally were going to reinforce Serbia, but did not make it in time. With Serbia gone knew opnn was going to prepare for an Italian front, I'm doing likewise with the French units by Nice.[;)]

[nehi]

soon he should do the dirtiest thing in whole ctgw, to declare war on suiss [:D]

it would postopen italy joining by 20 turns

[operating]

Are you sure about that..? As I recall if CP DOW'd the Swiss it actually brings Italy to the Swiss defense all that much sooner..! I believe the Swiss and Italy have a Defensive Pack.

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nehi

There is an event that triggers when the Swiss are attacked, have not looked it up yet in the scripts..

[nehi]

im pretty sure, its "meister stich" which can save cps ass even in 1915 scenario, else its just hopeless

as usually, u can try it vs ai in 1915 scenario

the best is to let italy to be as close as possible and then pull the trigger, it always set 20 turns for italy [8D]

ive discovered it in my 3rd mp game ever, 1st i won, 2nd u blimped me out, in 3rd i was stopped far from paris so i was looking for weaklings to chikane, first i took netherland, next move was to suiss, there i got it

[operating]

What is ?

"meister stich"