Japanese

[CMDRMCTOAST]

Are we there yet...[>:]

[sfbaytf]

This will never be resolved and can easily ping-pong back and forth. If we're not careful this will end up as long as...."the thread" Personally I have no problem with swastikas in games, but the German government does so they get omitted in games that are sold there.

As a kid I would build plastic models and apply them on the planes as decals....before lighting them on fire or blowing them up with firecrackers.

Times change and like I said before I have bigger fish to fry than fighting the PC police.

I can't believe I've spend this much time on this thread.

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: byron13
What people call themselves <snip>

The issue byron13 is indeed, one of politeness. Don’t twist my words. A simple exercise of manners obviates all the PC cow-flapjacks. As I stated, I shall always endeavor to be polite.

My only comment is that I am more annoyed by the PC-police, peeking into the margins, whining about person-A, using a term relating to person-B, that person-C may have a hard-on for.

We all know what’s not appropriate in polite society (or, I damn sure hope we know). But this business of “My idea of respect, controls” is more obnoxious to me than the children that call me Mick, Pope-head, whatever.

Life is indeed a continuum, and one must understand what is, and what is not, important, in the scheme of things.

m'kay. Said it. Am done.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: JWE

Life is indeed a continuum...

According to the Great Philosopher (OK it's the group 10CC):

Life is a minestrone,
served up with parmesan cheese.
Death is a cold lasagna,
suspended in deep freeze.

[Rainer]

because some PC-Fashists try to tell me to do so

People who use terms you don't agree to are no fashists per se. You should know better than that.

[jwilkerson]

Looks like this thread is no longer relevant to either AE or the history of the war.

[dorjun driver]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

There is one school of thought that likes to be cute and use the most syllables possible to describe someone or something.  That sort of PC is kind of ridiculous IMO. 

And I, for one, applaud Terminus and his efforts to crush sesquipedalianism in this forum.

[treespider]

Figure we could change the subject line...

[Terminus]

You're anti-Strand! I find that offensive.

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: sfbaytf
When my dad married my mom it was a very big deal. When he brought her home to meet the parents, my grandmother when absolutely ballistic. The very first words from my grandmother’s mouth in Cantonese were “you married a Jap!” It was complete pandemonium. To do something not long after the nationalists were run out of China and after what happened in WW2 was very unusual. Today in America its not such a big deal, (in Japan or China probably not so) but back then it was the equivalent of a Caucasion man bringing home an African American wife in the deep south. You just didn’t do those sort of things back then.

I grew up in Monterey Park, CA in the 1970s and this would have been scandalous then. All the Asian elasticities in town could identify the others immediately and they didn't mix much.

One thing I did notice growing up and having family on both sides, was the stark differences between the 2. Looking back its easy to see why a small country like Japan could over run China. The Chinese side was always squabbling with each other, trying to outdo one another and fighting over material things. The Japanese side was less well off, but they stuck together as one and shared whatever they had without a second thought. I never saw any fighting or squabbling on the Japanese side.

I noticed some clear cultural differences. Especially between Japanese and Chinese. Chinese culture is, by nature, somewhat disorganized and Japanese culture is very neat and tidy. It was obvious walking into shops. A Japanese shop would look like Adrian Monk had been there recently and a Chinese shop would be a jumble of merchandise sometimes spilling out on the sidewalk.

I picked up the same patterns when I was sent to Singapore on business as an adult. I passed through Japan coming and going and I had a sense that every worker in the airport made it their business to know what was going on and there were janitors everywhere cleaning every little corner.

In Singapore, there was a top down mandated organization to everything, but the underlying culture was still the jumble I remembered from my youth. I was talking to a cab driver about traffic laws and he could not conceive of a country having well run roads without draconian traffic laws.

I did find Japanese culture to be more aloof than Chinese culture. The Japanese are polite, but formal, but once you get to know them, they can be good friends. One of my father's closest friends was the son of Toyo Miyatake who is famous for taking pictures at Mazinar during the war.

The Chinese are more cordial and live and let live. You get to know them a lot more quickly.

At least I got to eat well. Had the best home cooked Japanese, Chinese and American food. Many times we would have family friends over on the weekends for a feast. That where I met my dads co-worker and friend who was in the Marines during WW2 and served up to Viet-Nam. My dad served in the Navy and drove landing craft so they had something in common-not to mention eating, drinking and playing cards. I know for a fact my dad friend was at Pelieu-as his wife mentioned that on more than one occasion as well as the slurs directed at General McArthur. I still have all the medals he gave to me and his ribbons have 3 battle stars on them. I never once hear him or his wife say anything bad about Japan or the Japanese people. I would not be surprised if they despised Gen MacArthur more than they did Japan. They treated me like their son and my mom was just like another family member to them. Same with the other family friend I met later on who as at Iwo Jima.

We had some outstanding Asian restaurants. I got really spoiled. I have found few restaurants since that could survive there. There is a Chinese place in Portland that we go to sometimes. It's a hole in the wall place which used to be a fast food restaurant, but the food is outstanding and cheap. Portland has had a large Japanese community for many years, so finding good Japanese food is somewhat easier.

Dang, now I am thinking about a great Japanese place we went to on the other side of town and I'm hungry...

Bill

[stuman]

ORIGINAL: dorjun driver

ORIGINAL: wdolson

There is one school of thought that likes to be cute and use the most syllables possible to describe someone or something.  That sort of PC is kind of ridiculous IMO. 

And I, for one, applaud Terminus and his efforts to crush sesquipedalianism in this forum.

sesquipedalianism

OK, I admit it, I had to look it up : " The practice of using long, sometimes obscure, words in speech or writing. "

[wdolson]

As I said, that sort of PC is nuts, IMO.&nbsp; The word "Japanese" is not a complex multi-syllable word that makes you sound like a college professor if you use it.&nbsp; There is a difference between verbal sesquipedalianic games and using commonly accepted, polite terms instead of insult laden pejoratives.

Bill

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: sfbaytf

This will never be resolved and can easily ping-pong back and forth. If we're not careful this will end up as long as...."the thread" Personally I have no problem with swastikas in games, but the German government does so they get omitted in games that are sold there.

As a kid I would build plastic models and apply them on the planes as decals....before lighting them on fire or blowing them up with firecrackers.

Times change and like I said before I have bigger fish to fry than fighting the PC police.

I can't believe I've spend this much time on this thread.

Hey! As a proud Thread Brother, I resent the implication that this thread is anything like THE THREAD!!! (all capital letters with 3 exclamation points to write it correctly [;)]) This thread has a point. The whole point of THE THREAD!!! is that it has no point. [:D]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: JWE

ORIGINAL: byron13
What people call themselves <snip>

The issue byron13 is indeed, one of politeness. Don’t twist my words. A simple exercise of manners obviates all the PC cow-flapjacks. As I stated, I shall always endeavor to be polite.

My only comment is that I am more annoyed by the PC-police, peeking into the margins, whining about person-A, using a term relating to person-B, that person-C may have a hard-on for.

We all know what’s not appropriate in polite society (or, I damn sure hope we know). But this business of “My idea of respect, controls” is more obnoxious to me than the children that call me Mick, Pope-head, whatever.

Life is indeed a continuum, and one must understand what is, and what is not, important, in the scheme of things.

m'kay. Said it. Am done.

Dang, John. If I wasn't already in your fan club, I'd be looking for an application! [8D]

[USSAmerica]

I say "dang" a lot, now that I live around all these "Rebs" in North Carolina. &nbsp;[:'(]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: Rainer

because some PC-Fashists try to tell me to do so

People who use terms you don't agree to are no fashists per se. You should know better than that.

No, people who don't use terms I do use and insist on forcing their values on me are the PC-Fascists.

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Looks like this thread is no longer relevant to either AE or the history of the war.

Joe, you're right. Maybe this thread IS becoming similar to THE THREAD!!! [:D]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: dorjun driver

ORIGINAL: wdolson

There is one school of thought that likes to be cute and use the most syllables possible to describe someone or something.  That sort of PC is kind of ridiculous IMO. 

And I, for one, applaud Terminus and his efforts to crush sesquipedalianism in this forum.

Where's my dictionary? I don't know what sesquipedalianism means, but I really like the word. I think I'll try to use it twice a day from now on, especially if it's not politically correct. [:'(]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

ORIGINAL: sfbaytf
When my dad married my mom it was a very big deal. When he brought her home to meet the parents, my grandmother when absolutely ballistic. The very first words from my grandmother’s mouth in Cantonese were “you married a Jap!” It was complete pandemonium. To do something not long after the nationalists were run out of China and after what happened in WW2 was very unusual. Today in America its not such a big deal, (in Japan or China probably not so) but back then it was the equivalent of a Caucasion man bringing home an African American wife in the deep south. You just didn’t do those sort of things back then.

I grew up in Monterey Park, CA in the 1970s and this would have been scandalous then. All the Asian elasticities in town could identify the others immediately and they didn't mix much.

One thing I did notice growing up and having family on both sides, was the stark differences between the 2. Looking back its easy to see why a small country like Japan could over run China. The Chinese side was always squabbling with each other, trying to outdo one another and fighting over material things. The Japanese side was less well off, but they stuck together as one and shared whatever they had without a second thought. I never saw any fighting or squabbling on the Japanese side.

I noticed some clear cultural differences. Especially between Japanese and Chinese. Chinese culture is, by nature, somewhat disorganized and Japanese culture is very neat and tidy. It was obvious walking into shops. A Japanese shop would look like Adrian Monk had been there recently and a Chinese shop would be a jumble of merchandise sometimes spilling out on the sidewalk.

I picked up the same patterns when I was sent to Singapore on business as an adult. I passed through Japan coming and going and I had a sense that every worker in the airport made it their business to know what was going on and there were janitors everywhere cleaning every little corner.

In Singapore, there was a top down mandated organization to everything, but the underlying culture was still the jumble I remembered from my youth. I was talking to a cab driver about traffic laws and he could not conceive of a country having well run roads without draconian traffic laws.

I did find Japanese culture to be more aloof than Chinese culture. The Japanese are polite, but formal, but once you get to know them, they can be good friends. One of my father's closest friends was the son of Toyo Miyatake who is famous for taking pictures at Mazinar during the war.

The Chinese are more cordial and live and let live. You get to know them a lot more quickly.

At least I got to eat well. Had the best home cooked Japanese, Chinese and American food. Many times we would have family friends over on the weekends for a feast. That where I met my dads co-worker and friend who was in the Marines during WW2 and served up to Viet-Nam. My dad served in the Navy and drove landing craft so they had something in common-not to mention eating, drinking and playing cards. I know for a fact my dad friend was at Pelieu-as his wife mentioned that on more than one occasion as well as the slurs directed at General McArthur. I still have all the medals he gave to me and his ribbons have 3 battle stars on them. I never once hear him or his wife say anything bad about Japan or the Japanese people. I would not be surprised if they despised Gen MacArthur more than they did Japan. They treated me like their son and my mom was just like another family member to them. Same with the other family friend I met later on who as at Iwo Jima.

We had some outstanding Asian restaurants. I got really spoiled. I have found few restaurants since that could survive there. There is a Chinese place in Portland that we go to sometimes. It's a hole in the wall place which used to be a fast food restaurant, but the food is outstanding and cheap. Portland has had a large Japanese community for many years, so finding good Japanese food is somewhat easier.

Dang, now I am thinking about a great Japanese place we went to on the other side of town and I'm hungry...

Bill

I love Monk. Absolutely hilarious! [&o]

[USSAmerica]

The solution to all of the PC garbage is for all of us to take ourselves just a little less seriously.&nbsp; Try it.&nbsp; You might like it.&nbsp; If you do try it and like not taking yourself too seriously, come and hang out with us in THE THREAD!!! &nbsp;[8D]