Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

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Hi all.

I am trying to write up the Royal navy. And in my attemt i have come across a funny thing. The carrier HMS Africa is a ship of two classes. Audacious and Malta classes, both has a ship called HMS Africa.

Since the classes has VERY different stats i think this is important. The counter one is the Malta class.

Hope some one can help me.

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ORIGINAL: Graf Zeppelin

Hi all.

I am trying to write up the Royal navy. And in my attemt i have come across a funny thing. The carrier HMS Africa is a ship of two classes. Audacious and Malta classes, both has a ship called HMS Africa.

Since the classes has VERY different stats i think this is important. The counter one is the Malta class.

Hope some one can help me.

Andi, aka Graf Zeppelin
I too think that the HMS Africa that WiF has in its countermix is from the Malta Class. The Audacious Class are class 4 CVs, and the Malta Class are class 5 CVs, and HMS Africa is a Class 5 CV.
You can find information here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious_ ... ft_carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_clas ... ft_carrier

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If somebody is keen on doing write-ups of Russian units and with regard to the ongoing discussion about Barbarossa versus Med, historical versus what-if strategies, there's a book review about Eastern front (book and reviw in English) at:

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/slaught ... ookreview/

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I too think that the HMS Africa that WiF has in its countermix is from the Malta Class. The Audacious Class are class 4 CVs, and the Malta Class are class 5 CVs, and HMS Africa is a Class 5 CV.
You can find information here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious_ ... ft_carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_clas ... ft_carrier

What would you need beyond this ?
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I also think the one in the countersheet is a Malta class, but sould there be 2?
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I also think the one in the countersheet is a Malta class, but sould there be 2?
I don't understand your question : "Should there be 2 ?".
Two what ?
Two Africa Carriers ? No WiF FE only has the Malta Class Africa Carrier, so there is only this one.
Two Malta Class Carriers ? Well there are many Malta Class Carriers in WiF FE, that's ok as it is (Gibraltar, Malta, Africa, New Zealand).
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yes but there is 4 of the Audacious and 4 of the Malta classes in real life, but only 3 Audacious and 4 Malta in the game...
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yes but there is 4 of the Audacious and 4 of the Malta classes in real life, but only 3 Audacious and 4 Malta in the game...
In WiF FE as it is now, there is no Africa CV of the Audacious Class.
MWiF reflects the WiF FE order of battle, so it is normal that there is no CV Africa of the Audacious Class.
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4 & 4?

No, as the first link shows, the name HMS Africa was reserved for an Audacious-class, got canceled, then assigned to a Malta-class, and got canceled again...

(Only 2 Malta's were even started.)
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I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, about a month later than I expected. All of december has been dedicated to my studies (had some old unfinished course that I just had to do to continue my studies). As of now I am putting the finishing touches to my second thesis this semester (the first one was approved [:)] ). It is due the 3rd of January and then I will get cracking with the fine write-ups that has been sent to me. I expect to be back in writing German write-ups by the end of that week. I hope everyone who has volonteered are as eager as me to write! I will post some screenies after I am done formatting.

There is always room for more hands if you (yes you ;-) ) are interested in helping out (on page 2 you have a list to help you pick your favorite country). Send me a PM and we can talk it through.

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OK one for your consideration:-

Italian Cavalry Corps "Mizza":

I've searched high and low for this and got nothing for my troubles. However the best advice I have is that there was a Cavalry regiment known as "Nizza" which was active in several theatres in WW2.

Seems likely that "Mizza" was a typo on the original counters or (surely not?) a mistake by Lord Harry... he had plenty of other things to think about after all, and he presumably is human- (or at least Australian, which is close enough ;-) )

In the scheme of things its not a biggie. However, knowing this, do I do the write up for "Mizza" and point out the error, or can/should the name of the unit be altered within the whole game?

I dont need an urgent reply, I've plenty of others to get on with and I fly off to France skiing for a week later on tonight; I thought I might just throw this one up and see where the bones lie when I get back.

Cheers Jimm

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ORIGINAL: Jimm

OK one for your consideration:-

Italian Cavalry Corps "Mizza":

I've searched high and low for this and got nothing for my troubles. However the best advice I have is that there was a Cavalry regiment known as "Nizza" which was active in several theatres in WW2.

Seems likely that "Mizza" was a typo on the original counters or (surely not?) a mistake by Lord Harry... he had plenty of other things to think about after all, and he presumably is human- (or at least Australian, which is close enough ;-) )

In the scheme of things its not a biggie. However, knowing this, do I do the write up for "Mizza" and point out the error, or can/should the name of the unit be altered within the whole game?

I dont need an urgent reply, I've plenty of others to get on with and I fly off to France skiing for a week later on tonight; I thought I might just throw this one up and see where the bones lie when I get back.

Cheers Jimm
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About Mizza / Nizza, the best would be to ask Harry.

About skiing in France, the best would be to bring your own snow too. No more snow here.
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ORIGINAL: Froonp

About Mizza / Nizza, the best would be to ask Harry.

About skiing in France, the best would be to bring your own snow too. No more snow here.

I'm told its been snowing all week at Courchevel! I'll let you know though...

Anyone able to throw the Mizza/Nizza query at Harry (without the Aussie quip, mind you...)




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a mistake by Lord Harry... he had plenty of other things to think about after all, and he presumably is human

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Nizza would be more logical than Mizza for sure.

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Hi All,
It's quite by chance that I stumbled on this forum to discover with astonishment (and delight !) that there is a computer version of WiF in active development !!! This was quite a surprise since, outside of this forum (the ADG web site, the Matrix web site), it wasn't looking like much was going on.

So, I spent a few days going through a lot of the messages on this forum (I must say that the maps are stunning, as well as the air units counters !). Among other things, I can't wait to see how the "naval units display on the map" problem is going to be addressed (not that I have any doubt that it will be addressed properly) or how the different phases are actually played in the game (I have not see the CWiF game).

In the meantime, I was wondering how I could help and it looks like you are still looking for people to do the writeup on some land units. Not that I have any credentials in military history, though... My strongest credentials for that job is that I *really* want to help get this game out !

So, if you think that I can help with some small and easy countries (to start), let me know. French is my native language, so I could help with the French land units, but I am worried that this might be too tough of a cookie for me...
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ORIGINAL: pclem

Hi All,
It's quite by chance that I stumbled on this forum to discover with astonishment (and delight !) that there is a computer version of WiF in active development !!! This was quite a surprise since, outside of this forum (the ADG web site, the Matrix web site), it wasn't looking like much was going on.

So, I spent a few days going through a lot of the messages on this forum (I must say that the maps are stunning, as well as the air units counters !). Among other things, I can't wait to see how the "naval units display on the map" problem is going to be addressed (not that I have any doubt that it will be addressed properly) or how the different phases are actually played in the game (I have not see the CWiF game).

In the meantime, I was wondering how I could help and it looks like you are still looking for people to do the writeup on some land units. Not that I have any credentials in military history, though... My strongest credentials for that job is that I *really* want to help get this game out !

So, if you think that I can help with some small and easy countries (to start), let me know. French is my native language, so I could help with the French land units, but I am worried that this might be too tough of a cookie for me...
Welcome and thanks for offering to help.

All help is appreciated. As far as I know, no one working on the unit writeups is a professional historian and almost all of them are learning a great deal as they do the writeups. Capitan is coordinating efforts for the land unit writeups so you should send him a PM (personal message) repeating what you just posted. Currently the French land units have no writeups, with the exceptions of the HQ/leaders and a lone Artillery unit built in the USA.

Writers have had more trouble with the land unit writeups than the air and naval ones, so I suggest reading through (lightly) the posts in this thread for a discussion and examples of how to research and what to look for. Good hunting!
Steve

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