Controversial! What do you dislike the most about DW/DW ROTS? Troll free Zone Please.

[cmdrnarrain]

So when you rant it needs to be said, but when someone else does it, its trolling.  Man you crack me up.   I can't believe you still have a grudge from the last time you started name calling when someone disagrees with you.
 
So where is your constructive criticism in the post? 

[Data]

What I don't understand is your willingness to spend so much time and energy in convincing us that...your ranting here.... If you don't like it don't use it, why is it so important to you if we enjoy it? I'm sure you can find something to enjoy for yourself without wasting your time here.

[DMan777]

I have to say that DW is one of my favorite games of all time.  It, to me, is the epitome of the 4X space game.  But I have to say that the overall performance of the game is fairly disappointing.  Some of the concerns already addressed are the save/load times.  I don't typically play large games (mainly because it's so laggy), so I can't address high-end performance, but just zooming and panning is disturbingly choppy--even from game start.

I've played much more graphically advanced games on my computer, but DW is pretty sorry.  I look at games like Star Ruler or Civ V in full 3D with all the goodies turned up and they play like glass.  After talking it up to a friend, I bought DW for a buddy for his birthday.  After a day or so, I asked him how he liked it and the first thing he said was, "Wow, it's sure choppy."  And his PC is new, high-end kit.

I don't know if the programming language is the problem, because that might limit the ability to fix these issues.  But if the performance could be improved, it would make waiting for the gameplay fixes much more tolerable.

Sorry for the rant, Code Force Crew.  I really do love the game!

[kentcol]

ORIGINAL: Webbco

A biggie for me: Exploration is boring. A game like this in my opinion should have a ton of stuff not in galactopedia that are one-off finds.

Linked to this, I think resources need to be A LOT rarer...so certain colonies are specifically important and have an individual purpose to the empire (early in game of course).

+1

[gijas17]

These type of games are in a nich market. So if we see one come out and that in its self is rare these days, we naturally want it to be perfect. What I see here with this series is a great concept, immersive gameplay and relaxed civ building. Now take Star Ruler which is now at patch 7 something. When released it was more like alpha test than beta. Now its becoming more and more like a truely innovative 4x'r that was advertised. PC gaming is naturally buggy. Look back guys. I've been around awhile and I know games have bugs, etc, etc and even the great one's like Gal Civ 2, Moo, etc have and still have bugs. I will admit the AI could be better but like we discussed in another thread has anyone prefected this yet????? Not to my knowledge and if they have they better share it with the rest of us!

Quote -"There is no way to set notes for planets or area of interests (that i know of that is)"

Comment: Your right. Im asusming you know of this feature from Sword of the Stars series. This is a great concept and that needs to be in more games of this type. DW could really use a "note feature" so Im hoping that "guy" reads this.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Data

What I don't understand is your willingness to spend so much time and energy in convincing us that...your ranting here.... If you don't like it don't use it, why is it so important to you if we enjoy it? I'm sure you can find something to enjoy for yourself without wasting your time here.

Seems to me that most people on this forum do enjoy it. I honestly have no idea why people who don't feel compelled to come here and endlessly complain. It's something I will never understand to be honest...when I don't like something I don't spend all my time complaining about it, I've got better things to do...like actually playing DW. [;)]

[Data]

like actually playing DW.

Don't say that, you'll activate him again....enjoying DW, how can that be? [:D]

[cmdrnarrain]

Sheez, these posts are the most exciting thing to happen on this board in months, you should be thankful.  Which is a sad statement by itself.

If you don't squeek you won't get any grease.  If the developer isn't willing to invest more into the game then it will continue to quietly die as it is now.  Don't believe me, check the board again in a couple of months and see if the same people are posting anything.  Yes Data, I realize you still will probably being posting so no need to response. 

One thing will shut me up, however... a $90 refund.

[adecoy95]

dunno why you think that the developers need motivation, to make a game these days takes years, they are not going to pour that much time into a game and then go all dun!

and they haven't, the patches have been extensive, and if the development team is as small as you say it is, it makes it even more surprising.

[Data]

I think 90$ is a small price to pay to end your suffering....but you should really move on even if you don't get a refund

these posts are the most exciting thing to happen on this board in months

that's plain ignorance

[Igard]

I find it hard to find what I dislike about DW. Sure I'd like to see alot of improvements, but do I dislike anything right now?

I could say that I dislike the lack of mod support, but I know it's going to get some love soon, so I guess that's cool.

I know there are AI weaknesses that need fixed, but these don't really affect my RP style of play. I compromise myself for the good of the story.

I don't have any performance issues because I'm fortunate enough to have a good comp. BTW Solid State Drives rule!!

I'd like to see exploration beefed up a bit, but then, I don't dislike this aspect of the game.

So nothing really that I dislike.[8|]

Oh, yes, I dislike that other empires don't respect my territory and move their civilian population right in the middle of my great big, isolationist, xenophobic, war mongering empire. Smart move by Mr & Mrs Joe Normal. Send the troops.

[Simulation01]

I love the game.

I have made my feelings quite clear on what I'd like to see added to the game, but one thing that expressly bugs the s**t out of me is troop transport modules on my destroyers.  Why are they there!?  I thought we had troop transports to carry our troops????!!!!  Every time I start a game I have to immediately remove them from the destroyer design and then upgrade my current fleet of destroyers!  The reason I don't like them on my default destroyer is because they remove troops from my planets automatically when they are built.

It's a tremendous bother to me, but like I said...I love the game.

[Grave]

ORIGINAL: Simulation01
but one thing that expressly bugs the s**t out of me is troop transport modules on my destroyers.  Why are they there!?  I thought we had troop transports to carry our troops????!!!!  Every time I start a game I have to immediately remove them from the destroyer design and then upgrade my current fleet of destroyers!  The reason I don't like them on my default destroyer is because they remove troops from my planets automatically when they are built.

It's a tremendous bother to me, but like I said...I love the game.

Oh yeah!!! I really dislike troop transport modules on destroyers design. It is not my style of troop transportation too.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Simulation01

I love the game.

I have made my feelings quite clear on what I'd like to see added to the game, but one thing that expressly bugs the s**t out of me is troop transport modules on my destroyers.  Why are they there!?  I thought we had troop transports to carry our troops????!!!!  Every time I start a game I have to immediately remove them from the destroyer design and then upgrade my current fleet of destroyers!  The reason I don't like them on my default destroyer is because they remove troops from my planets automatically when they are built.

It's a tremendous bother to me, but like I said...I love the game.

APD...real ships from WWII. Destroyers designed to transport troops to a LZ quickly. Same thing here I guess. You can always remove the transport module, I do.

[Simulation01]

ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Simulation01

I love the game.

I have made my feelings quite clear on what I'd like to see added to the game, but one thing that expressly bugs the s**t out of me is troop transport modules on my destroyers.  Why are they there!?  I thought we had troop transports to carry our troops????!!!!  Every time I start a game I have to immediately remove them from the destroyer design and then upgrade my current fleet of destroyers!  The reason I don't like them on my default destroyer is because they remove troops from my planets automatically when they are built.

It's a tremendous bother to me, but like I said...I love the game.

APD...real ships from WWII. Destroyers designed to transport troops to a LZ quickly. Same thing here I guess. You can always remove the transport module, I do.

It's just that I have to do it every single time I start a game! It's like this crazy ritual....I hum and rock back and forth while I do it now!!!

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Simulation01

ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Simulation01

I love the game.

I have made my feelings quite clear on what I'd like to see added to the game, but one thing that expressly bugs the s**t out of me is troop transport modules on my destroyers.  Why are they there!?  I thought we had troop transports to carry our troops????!!!!  Every time I start a game I have to immediately remove them from the destroyer design and then upgrade my current fleet of destroyers!  The reason I don't like them on my default destroyer is because they remove troops from my planets automatically when they are built.

It's a tremendous bother to me, but like I said...I love the game.

APD...real ships from WWII. Destroyers designed to transport troops to a LZ quickly. Same thing here I guess. You can always remove the transport module, I do.

It's just that I have to do it every single time I start a game! It's like this crazy ritual....I hum and rock back and forth while I do it now!!!

Tell me about it, spend the first 30 minutes setting up the game, another 1-2 hours in the editor 'helping' the AI empires by adding big population planets for them, then another half an hour or so fixing my own ships. And I love every minute of it...I think I am a glutton for punishment. [8D]

[cookie monster]

It's just that I have to do it every single time I start a game! It's like this crazy ritual....I hum and rock back and forth while I do it now!!!

You don't.

You modify the designs and then save them via the design screen for all your start ups.

You need an extra reactor/shields on explorers/colony ships,more fuel tanks etc.etc

MR Data for one does this, I haven't as yet as I don't restart very often.

I like troop space on destroyers initially for independant colony invasion, money's too tight to buy transports near the start of the game. A transport is generally a single use ship, whereas an early game troop carrying destroyer can multi role.

I remove the troop compartments later as it takes a while to reload the troops from the planet, cos the planet has limited docking bays.

[Data]

Shark, after all that tweaking is done save the game.....we should have a place (the ftp if Matrix allows or somewhere else if not) where we should put them so that others will only need to load them to start.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Data

Shark, after all that tweaking is done save the game.....we should have a place (the ftp if Matrix allows or somewhere else if not) where we should put them so that other only load them to start.

Save early, save often! ...its the only motto to live by. [;)]

The problem comes in the updates, since it resets all my preferred settings and we can't save those for later use...hmmm, some one should suggest Elliot make that possible. [:)]

[Data]

Some of the updates don't affect them but indeed, as a general rule, they are affected with each update. I don't think anyone has wishlisted this, we should vote for it with both hands; I'm doing it right now [:)]