Jutland by Norm Kroger

[Mobeer]

I bought Distant Guns (predecessor to Jutland) when it first came out. Great game, and when my campaign save got corrupted Norm and Jim gace great personal support to get it fixed.

Unfortunately things went downhill with the DRM on Jutland. SES seemed obsessed with piracy, to the point their DRM kept preventing genuine customers from using the software. SES might have been good developers but as retailers their customer service wasn't great, especially when considering Stormpowered was going to replace Steam.

[demyansk]

I have cmano,too difficult for me

[altipueri]

ORIGINAL: demyansk

I have cmano,too difficult for me

I'm so glad you said that because I too found it beyond me.

Perhaps there should be an Alcoholics Anonymous equivalent place for gamers to admit to owning things they can't play. War in the Pacific and Ageod's Pride of Nations are two others of mine.

[cpdeyoung]

I am not happy to say that all three of these games (Command, War in the Pacific, and Pride of Nations) are beyond my fun-work barrier.

Chuck

[Poopyhead]

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/ ... -cruisers/

"Tudor could see no problem with providing capital ships with additional projectiles. There was plenty more stowage in the shell rooms under each turret. When ships were ordered to "action imminent," moreover, it was normal operating procedure for all the shell bays in the turret working chambers and gun houses to be filled. There was space inside each rotating structure for sixteen rounds per gun. After all cages, hoists and waiting trays had been loaded, therefore, there would be some forty-six projectiles (or twenty-three rounds per gun) within the ammunition supply chain between the shell rooms and the guns."

This lead to the infamous chain explosions that sank three RN Battlecruisers. If in general practice, as implied, then ADM Sir Jellicoe's whole force might have become "one-hit wonders". Do these games simulate this reality?

[demyansk]

Those titles from AGeod are great but I just can't play them.

[OldSarge]

ORIGINAL: Poopyhead

Do these games simulate this reality?

IIRC HPS Jutland does. SAI-WWI definitely does, it is added as a modifier that varies with each nation and the year of the scenario.

[Hentzau]

Norm Koger's masterpiece was doomed from the moment he threw in with Jim Rose. Until that moment I eagerly awaited his product. Disastrous decision.

Killerfish could make a pretty sweet WWI game based off Atlantic Fleet if they wanted to.

[Pvt_Grunt]

ORIGINAL: Hentzau

Killerfish could make a pretty sweet WWI game based off Atlantic Fleet if they wanted to.

Yes, I was thinking that as well.

[bazjak]

Its a shame as i have had this game for a long time
Is there no-way that someone could sort it out?

[AFBTD]

its an United kingdom defeat; but not for me; jellicoe looked for another trafalgar and he could not maked i guess; also many of then (dreagnoughts) explode the magazine.

[Zorch]

If only Alan Zimm would remake Action Stations.

[jimi3]

+1 on that. Still have the old 5.25 discs and docs. Great game.

[bazjak]

ORIGINAL: AFBTD

its an United kingdom defeat; but not for me; jellicoe looked for another trafalgar and he could not maked i guess; also many of then (dreagnoughts) explode the magazine.

Depends on which angle you look at it from
Yes the UK lost more men and ships but after that battle the German navy never went to sea to again

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: bazjak

ORIGINAL: AFBTD

its an United kingdom defeat; but not for me; jellicoe looked for another trafalgar and he could not maked i guess; also many of then (dreagnoughts) explode the magazine.

Depends on which angle you look at it from
Yes the UK lost more men and ships but after that battle the German navy never went to sea to again

Actually, it did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_of_19_August_1916

Another fleet sortie took place on 18–19 October 1916 to attack enemy shipping east of Dogger Bank. Despite being forewarned by signal intelligence, the Grand Fleet did not attempt to intercept. The operation was however cancelled due to poor weather after the cruiser München was torpedoed by the British submarine HMS E38

[Capitaine]

ORIGINAL: bazjak

ORIGINAL: AFBTD

its an United kingdom defeat; but not for me; jellicoe looked for another trafalgar and he could not maked i guess; also many of then (dreagnoughts) explode the magazine.

Depends on which angle you look at it from
Yes the UK lost more men and ships but after that battle the German navy never went to sea to again

That's not true. They went to sea a number of more times. And looking for battle.

[HighwayStar]

+2 on that. Can't someone at Matrix contact RAW Entertainment and try to remake AS?

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: HighwayStar

+2 on that. Can't someone at Matrix contact RAW Entertainment and try to remake AS?

They went under many years ago.

And I doubt these guys have anything to do with computer games https://www.facebook.com/pg/Raw-Enterta ... e_internal

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: AFBTD

its an United kingdom defeat; but not for me; jellicoe looked for another trafalgar and he could not maked i guess; also many of then (dreagnoughts) explode the magazine.

warspite1

Why do you say that Jellicoe "looked for another Trafalgar"? Yes of course Jellicoe wanted to destroy the threat posed by the High Seas Fleet, but the criticism of Jellicoe post Jutland stems from the belief in many quarters that he was not bold enough. Yes he wanted to destroy the High Seas Fleet but he was not - and he told the Admiralty this upon becoming CinC of the Grand Fleet - going to risk defeat if conditions were uncertain (specifically he feared submarine and destroyer torpedo attacks) because he simply didn't need to. It was for the Germans to break the blockade - not for Jellicoe to hand them victory by taking unnecessary risks.

The criticism of Jellicoe therefore is that he wasn't going for another Trafalgar - not unless the conditions were absolutely perfect at any rate.

And to be clear, there was no British dreadnought loss at Jutland. The British lost the battlecruisers Indefatigable, Queen Mary and Invincible but no dreadnoughts. The loss of these battlecruisers was not the reason the High Seas Fleet got away - for that the 'blame' lies elsewhere....

[AFBTD]

well, warspite1 your right, i only read this article, take a look my english is not good enough; i know, maybe i mistake some part of the battle but one thing a want to say in my defense the WW1 and WW2 where for hungry; German was forced

https://www.navygeneralboard.com/who-won-the-battle-of-jutland/

no seras aleman[:D]..eres un grande