Expansions

[Ekaton]

ORIGINAL: Numdydar

I would only be interested in the expansions if they could be added to the base game in order to expand the Grand Campaign we currently have.

I was very disappointed in Torch for WitW as it did not tie into the overall campaign game. So if these expansions are along the same lines as Torch, then I will take a pass.

Same for me

[Vesku80]

Correct!

Please no. not integrated into the campaign game. As a stand alone, ok. a winter war 1940 scenario, ok. but regarding the campaign, the solution now as a box is perfect.

They could do alternative versions of full campaign, one with Finland as controllable theatre and keep the current TB version as well?

[Rexzapper]

ORIGINAL: Vesku80
They could do alternative versions of full campaign, one with Finland as controllable theatre and keep the current TB version as well?

+1

[juv95hrn]

North Africa, WitW 2 and last a DLC that connects them all into the monster game we War in Europe we want and deserve!

[StratmanWITX]

Hi all!
My wishlist:
- integrate the finnish war in the campaign game;
- a winter finnish war (1940) as a single scenario;
- German invasion of Poland (1939) as a single scenario;

[Sardaukar]

ORIGINAL: StratmanWITX

Hi all!
My wishlist:
- integrate the finnish war in the campaign game;
- a winter finnish war (1940) as a single scenario;
- German invasion of Poland (1939) as a single scenario;

No, no and no! (For bolded one). It has been seen how unrealistic things become in WitE 1 even with special rules.

Winter War yes.

1941-1944 (1945) as independent scenario (North only) maybe. I'd just say that it'd be boring. Terrain in north was very beneficial to defender and logistic just could not support German advance to Murmansk.

[Vermin]

Yes Yes and Yes[:D] The old WITE1 playable area is very easily added. Given the game limit on use of Finish Forces they will have even less effect than in WITE1 since you wont have more than one corps anywhere SE of Leningrad even if you do capture it. You can add the different map regions to the map or to TBs so you can decide how far north and east you want on-map to go. I doubt the central and northern areas could be integrated on map as supply was very special there. If it could, marvelous. If not, the event system is capable of also reflecting an eventual capture of Murmansk. The consequences of this would actually be trivial in terms of the War in the East. The USA had neither the inclination nor ability to support yet another front. The British would be pleased they no longer had to run the dangerous Murmansk convoys. The Soviets could still get LL through Archangelsk 6-9 months of the year and the remaminder would simply arrive via LL south or LL East. Would the Fins assist in the ways necessary to achieve this - that would depend on a range of factors -some of which can be game events. It is two way street of course and this means the Soviets may occupy Petsamo and overrun most of Finland before eventual Finnish surrender - something that might happen earlier than expected. And it could lead to the Finns (or the Axis player)having to make some difficult decision regarding whether to push for Murmansk if the consequnce for failure is Soviet occupation of Finland... Something for everyone there!

[pburton2000]

+1 to this ! Integrate the FINNS

[StratmanWITX]

ORIGINAL: Vermin

Yes Yes and Yes[:D] The old WITE1 playable area is very easily added. Given the game limit on use of Finish Forces they will have even less effect than in WITE1 since you wont have more than one corps anywhere SE of Leningrad even if you do capture it. You can add the different map regions to the map or to TBs so you can decide how far north and east you want on-map to go. I doubt the central and northern areas could be integrated on map as supply was very special there. If it could, marvelous. If not, the event system is capable of also reflecting an eventual capture of Murmansk. The consequences of this would actually be trivial in terms of the War in the East. The USA had neither the inclination nor ability to support yet another front. The British would be pleased they no longer had to run the dangerous Murmansk convoys. The Soviets could still get LL through Archangelsk 6-9 months of the year and the remaminder would simply arrive via LL south or LL East. Would the Fins assist in the ways necessary to achieve this - that would depend on a range of factors -some of which can be game events. It is two way street of course and this means the Soviets may occupy Petsamo and overrun most of Finland before eventual Finnish surrender - something that might happen earlier than expected. And it could lead to the Finns (or the Axis player)having to make some difficult decision regarding whether to push for Murmansk if the consequnce for failure is Soviet occupation of Finland... Something for everyone there!

I agree. Here we can find a lot of interesting " what if?" things and this will make WITE2 more interesting and dramatic.
Of course, we can also leave the "leave it as it is" option to those players who are not interested in this expansion.

[Sardaukar]

Well...if you want to integrate Finns to Grand Campaign, you end up into total ahistorical fiction.

There are VERY good reasons why things are now depicted as they are in game.

[mikael333]

Maybe I will one day play the grand campaign. But I bought WitE2 primarily for the scenarios. So I hope to get more scenarios out of the expansion.

[Vermin]

and of course for those whom any deviation from history is ahistorical... they can read a book instead

[Sardaukar]

ORIGINAL: Vermin

and of course for those whom any deviation from history is ahistorical... they can read a book instead

There are things that are within realms of possibility...and then those that are not...