MWiF Map Review - America

[Froonp]

I see no problem with dual names as we did for Boden/Lulea.

I like this.
In that case, I'll make it so that names are both near the symbol they correspond to. For Lulea / Boden and Merida / Progreso this could not be possible because there is a single icon (port). Except it is demonstrated that Merida population in the 40s warranted a city (it is 793k inhabitants currently, so it may be)

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

I see no problem with dual names as we did for Boden/Lulea.

I like this.
In that case, I'll make it so that names are both near the symbol they correspond to. For Lulea / Boden and Merida / Progreso this could not be possible because there is a single icon (port). Except it is demonstrated that Merida population in the 40s warranted a city (it is 793k inhabitants currently, so it may be)

I am not sure if I was clear here. I meant for there to be 1 label that contains 2 names: Lulea (Boden).

[Earl Uhtred]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: Earl Uhtred
It's a minor point, but Merida in Yucatan isn't on the coast and thus isn't a port. The port of Merida is Progreso.

I wonder what to do.
Are Merida & Progreso of equal size, or is there one larger that the other ?
WiF FE has it that the port is named Merida, but this is a Pacific Scaled Area, so they took Merida even if it was not really coastal. Maybe it is larger ?

From wikipedia I get that Merida is the capital of Yucatan with 793k inhabitants, 11st Mexican city, 35 km from the coast.
From the same place, I get that Progreso has a 45k population, so while they are in the same hex, the name of Merida must stay.

It is this case with a good number of cities that are near the coast, but that are not coastal. There is Lima also for example, for which the port is Callao. The original WiF FE map has both names written in the same hex, Callao near the port, and Lima near the city. It may also be the case for Boden / Lulea in Sweden too.
But it seems this is never the case in MWiF.

Should 2 names appear for a hex, one for the port, one for the city, when there is a city near the shore, that is not a port, and another much smaller, that is the real port ?

Merida is certainly much bigger and much older, but while the only thing in the hex is a port... If Merida appeared on the map as a city, or if Progreso was a suburb of Merida rather than a physically separate community, then by all means use that name, but until then surely it makes more sense to use the name of the anchorage that is the main defining feature of this hex?

Taking your example of Callao: I seem to remember on the America in Flames map it got its own hex and was named. Can't remember whether Lima was in the same hex. But it's been a while since I broke AiF out so who knows.

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: Earl Uhtred

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: Earl Uhtred
It's a minor point, but Merida in Yucatan isn't on the coast and thus isn't a port. The port of Merida is Progreso.

I wonder what to do.
Are Merida & Progreso of equal size, or is there one larger that the other ?
WiF FE has it that the port is named Merida, but this is a Pacific Scaled Area, so they took Merida even if it was not really coastal. Maybe it is larger ?

From wikipedia I get that Merida is the capital of Yucatan with 793k inhabitants, 11st Mexican city, 35 km from the coast.
From the same place, I get that Progreso has a 45k population, so while they are in the same hex, the name of Merida must stay.

It is this case with a good number of cities that are near the coast, but that are not coastal. There is Lima also for example, for which the port is Callao. The original WiF FE map has both names written in the same hex, Callao near the port, and Lima near the city. It may also be the case for Boden / Lulea in Sweden too.
But it seems this is never the case in MWiF.

Should 2 names appear for a hex, one for the port, one for the city, when there is a city near the shore, that is not a port, and another much smaller, that is the real port ?

Merida is certainly much bigger and much older, but while the only thing in the hex is a port... If Merida appeared on the map as a city, or if Progreso was a suburb of Merida rather than a physically separate community, then by all means use that name, but until then surely it makes more sense to use the name of the anchorage that is the main defining feature of this hex?

Taking your example of Callao: I seem to remember on the America in Flames map it got its own hex and was named. Can't remember whether Lima was in the same hex. But it's been a while since I broke AiF out so who knows.

Merida was Spanish capital in Yucatan, a very old city by American standards (excluding indigenous cities of course) and it is very large. Most of the buildings are white I rememeber correctly and the city is even called "the white city". But it is FAR from the ocean so it does not make sense to call a port Merida.

I am also confused on the name of the Guatemalan pacific port. I have been there for 8 months and I never heard of the name Istapan. To be honest there is no real city along the coast that could warrant a port but if one would be chose it would be Puerto San José or Champerico (a real stretch on that last one though)

[Froonp]

I am also confused on the name of the Guatemalan pacific port. I have been there for 8 months and I never heard of the name Istapan. To be honest there is no real city along the coast that could warrant a port but if one would be chose it would be Puerto San José or Champerico (a real stretch on that last one though)

You're right I think. The real WiF FE map, because of its Pacific Scale, had the City of Guatemala and a minor port on the Pacific Coast, but the minor port was not named.
I will put Puerto San José on the map, a little westwards.

[Froonp]

Merida was Spanish capital in Yucatan, a very old city by American standards (excluding indigenous cities of course) and it is very large. Most of the buildings are white I rememeber correctly and the city is even called "the white city". But it is FAR from the ocean so it does not make sense to call a port Merida.

I've put both names, with Progreso in parenthesis.

[Froonp]

One more remote place : Patagonia.

[Froonp]

Does this place remind you of something ?

[Froonp]

Here is southern Brazil, still a draft coastlines.

[Froonp]

All of South America was posted here for you to see and criticize if needed, to complement and comment, so don't be shy.

[wfzimmerman]

It's the "Falkland Islands", not "Falkland Island".

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: wfzimmerman

It's the "Falkland Islands", not "Falkland Island".

I believe they are both wrong, it is called "Las Malvinas" [:D]

[wworld7]

ORIGINAL: capitan

I believe they are both wrong, it is called "Las Malvinas" [:D]

NOT!

Flipper

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: capitan
I believe they are both wrong, it is called "Las Malvinas" [:D]

NOT!
Flipper

The Falkland Islands are a contested Area.
The British People call it the Falklands, and the Argentinian people call it Las Malvinas.
Not wanting to take side on any side, I simply left the name that there is on WiF FE maps.
The spelling error is not on the real MWiF maps.

[wfzimmerman]

The map does a nice job of showing the underlying military logic of the 1982 conflict.

A German para flying on a JU-52 could easily make its way to Port Stanley from Argentina.

But once it gets there, there are five invadable hexes to garrison against a CW counterattack.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: Froonp
One more remote place : Patagonia.

About this one, I had to delete a bit of railway that linked Viedma (Argentina) and Puerto Montt (Chile), because it was on the original MWiF maps (and it is on the WiF FE maps), but this railway do not even exist in 2006. So I deleted it.

But, having deleted this railway between Chile & Argentina, I'm leaving only 1 such railway on the map, and the WiF FE map has 2 Chile - Argentina Map.

So to restablish the situation (having 2 x Chile - Argentina railways), I thought about adding a Antofagasta - Salta railway. This railway exists in 2006, but I don't know if it existed in the 40s. (see next post for an illo)

Would anyone here know ?

[Froonp]

Map for proposed new railway.

[wworld7]

ORIGINAL: Froonp
The Falkland Islands are a contested Area.
The British People call it the Falklands, and the Argentinian people call it Las Malvinas.
Not wanting to take side on any side, I simply left the name that there is on WiF FE maps.
The spelling error is not on the real MWiF maps.

Froonp,

While it is true Argentinia has not dropped its demand for the islands. It is not contested by the people living in the islands. In fact the people voted to stay part of Great Britain.

And until Ireland completes its conquest of the world this issue will not been settled.

Flipper

[jesperpehrson]

It is not contested by the people living in the islands. In fact the people voted to stay part of Great Britain.

All five of them? [;)]

Anyway let´s not discuss politics here. I have my opinion and you have yours. Let´s leave it at that.

Now...only 10 more corpsized INFs to go before all Germans INFs are done. Then of course all the other nations of the world remain [X(]

[argaur]

for the spanish is las malvinas too