Yes. I knew Lord Howe but couldn't for the life of me remember Raoul! Thanks.PaxMondo wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:18 pmGood idea. Keep a reaction force nearby as these will definitely be targeted early. You'll want to reinforce/re-take them ASAP.John 3rd wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:29 pm With the southward thrust through Noumea--more or less--accomplished, I think Japan will try to grab the three islands that recon can be flown from: Norfolk, the one to the west nearer Aussieland, and the one to the SE. If I can grab those, then Japan should be able to launch raiders into the deep south Pacific without being seen...this could be very enjoyable...
Take them and then place a CD unit and Base Force on each and extend recon all the way to near the edge of the map.
(guessing that you mean Lord Howe Island and Raoul Island in addition to Norfolk Island?)
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Defenseless: Between the Storms Japan
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Had to do a modification to the Scenario. With all this time on my hands I have been plinking around throughout the Mod looking for good and bad things.
One thing that I figured out is that the expansion of Japanese shipyards PRIOR to war start coupled to this being a CV Mod has led to a plethora of Japanese build points. I have been able to accelerate ALL the Japanese 8 late-war CVs without straining things whatsoever in 1942. Add to that I have Junyo and Hiyo accelerated and one can see an issue that will become rapidly apparent.
This Mod focuses on the CVs and then CAs and CL/CLAA. The Japanese build two B-65 in Circle Four so they are completed by war's start. It is nice to have a pair of modern BC to escort the Kido Butai but it should not be this EASY to build everything! With this in mind, I have now added a second pair of B-65 that are operational in mid-to-late 1943. Each of these ships require 130 build points. They are good and capable escort ships...so...their addition should make things a bit more dicey for the Japanese buildout.
One thing that I figured out is that the expansion of Japanese shipyards PRIOR to war start coupled to this being a CV Mod has led to a plethora of Japanese build points. I have been able to accelerate ALL the Japanese 8 late-war CVs without straining things whatsoever in 1942. Add to that I have Junyo and Hiyo accelerated and one can see an issue that will become rapidly apparent.
This Mod focuses on the CVs and then CAs and CL/CLAA. The Japanese build two B-65 in Circle Four so they are completed by war's start. It is nice to have a pair of modern BC to escort the Kido Butai but it should not be this EASY to build everything! With this in mind, I have now added a second pair of B-65 that are operational in mid-to-late 1943. Each of these ships require 130 build points. They are good and capable escort ships...so...their addition should make things a bit more dicey for the Japanese buildout.

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Here are our targets with Lord Howe and Norfolk on the screen and Raoul just off of it.

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Here is the current troops getting ready to land in Hawaii:
16th Army HQ
Infantry
14th ID
90th ID
IJA Brigade
3 SNLF Assault Brigades
Support
3 Artillery Units
4 AA Units
7 Engineer/Construction Units
Air
1 Air Fleet
2 Air Flotilla
5 Base Forces
On the Way but missing the initial Landings:
1 ID, 2 IJA Brigades, 2 CD units, 2 Base Forces...
16th Army HQ
Infantry
14th ID
90th ID
IJA Brigade
3 SNLF Assault Brigades
Support
3 Artillery Units
4 AA Units
7 Engineer/Construction Units
Air
1 Air Fleet
2 Air Flotilla
5 Base Forces
On the Way but missing the initial Landings:
1 ID, 2 IJA Brigades, 2 CD units, 2 Base Forces...

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Lord Howe Island - I would open game as Allies to double check what command it belongs to. It is below Brisbane so unsure if it would trigger Aussie emergency reinforcements. It is relatively close to the mainland, sir.
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Shouldn't trigger anything---RIGHT? Think that is only applicable to the mainland.ny59giants wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 1:49 am Lord Howe Island - I would open game as Allies to double check what command it belongs to. It is below Brisbane so unsure if it would trigger Aussie emergency reinforcements. It is relatively close to the mainland, sir.

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Just check the country code, no need to open the games as the Allies.John 3rd wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 1:54 amShouldn't trigger anything---RIGHT? Think that is only applicable to the mainland.ny59giants wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 1:49 am Lord Howe Island - I would open game as Allies to double check what command it belongs to. It is below Brisbane so unsure if it would trigger Aussie emergency reinforcements. It is relatively close to the mainland, sir.
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Norfolk and Lord Howe are Australian Command.

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John;
In my Scen 1, Norfolk and Lord Howe are 32, Raoul is 34. Brisbane is 30.
Did you change those in your mod?
Pax
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No. They shouldn't be changed.
I will do more then a cursory check...
I will do more then a cursory check...

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It is not the command but rather the country code. An invasion of Tasmania does activate the emergency reinforcements.
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Pax--what do you mean 30--32--34? Think I am confused and being obtuse...
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Re: Defenseless: Between the Storms Japan
I just went through to the RULEBOOK and it only mentions southern Australia. Lord Howe SHOULD be OK.RangerJoe wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:47 am It is not the command but rather the country code. An invasion of Tasmania does activate the emergency reinforcements.

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Exactly, it's not the Base HQ, but the country code (hotkey=4) which determines the trigger. Since the county codes are different, they should NOT trigger the reinforcements ...RangerJoe wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:47 am It is not the command but rather the country code. An invasion of Tasmania does activate the emergency reinforcements.
Pretty sure that I've taken those in the past and did not trigger anything.
Pax
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Ahhhh...will hotkey it and see.
Do you have the list of Hot Keys? I would love to print one off. Still miss them and/or screw them up occasionally.
Do you have the list of Hot Keys? I would love to print one off. Still miss them and/or screw them up occasionally.

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OK. YES...they are the same.

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Ahhh, so they are the same as what I gave you earlier or they are all the same =30?
My turn at being obtuse!!!
Pax
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Hotkey list ... this is from 1127 .. not sure if any revisions are in 1128 ...
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Same as the ones you posted!

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