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Drone swarms.... I'm telling you, watch out for the drone swarms!
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Maybe the Y-30 ("Sino A400M" turboprop driven transport plane) spotted in Yanliang?
https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/1 ... 1505002496

https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/1 ... 1505002496

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This confuse me. If there are lots of GX series for Y-8/9 and is still producing more, then what is the purpose for making Y-30?
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IMI Systems (formerly Israel Military Industries) and Israel Aerospace Industries have jointly developed a new long-range precision strike weapon suitable for use during stand-off-range attacks.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... si-449358/
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... si-449358/
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ORIGINAL: Dysta
This confuse me. If there are lots of GX series for Y-8/9 and is still producing more, then what is the purpose for making Y-30?
Y-8 and Y-9 are equivalent to the C-160 or An-12, while the Y-30 would be the C-130J and A-400M.
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"June 7, The USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) was moored at Berth A2/A4, Pier 3 on Naval Weapons Station Earle, N.J., for ammo onload."
I took a few pictures like last year but they are too blurry to post. The NWS is nearby.
Kevin
I took a few pictures like last year but they are too blurry to post. The NWS is nearby.
Kevin
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Alfred Thayer Mahan
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War novels and video games predicting a nuclear war between US and NK might stay fictional forever. But hey, you can't build Rome in one day, so does the peace needs actual progress too:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kim-si ... 53594.html
EDIT: Some people are still dreaming on: when will US to deal with totalitarian regimes by their "liberial" solutions, which means they never agree NK and other nuclear states just back down and talk peace easily. If Russian and Chinese regional aggression are still there, how could US suggest NK will be different?
I would not post any quote about this one, it's around Twitter.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kim-si ... 53594.html
EDIT: Some people are still dreaming on: when will US to deal with totalitarian regimes by their "liberial" solutions, which means they never agree NK and other nuclear states just back down and talk peace easily. If Russian and Chinese regional aggression are still there, how could US suggest NK will be different?
I would not post any quote about this one, it's around Twitter.
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After one day, the rumored Y-30 have been mistaken -- it's actually a static model of TTC, as known as the Ukrainian-designed heavy lift aircraft demonstrator in 2009. Back then China has yet capable to design large aircraft, and have to build the airframe with aid of Ukrainians. Thus named Y-20. The Y-20A is the domestically enhanced design and conducted maiden flight in 2013:
http://3g.china.com/act/military/111729 ... 20249.html (simplified Chinese)
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Suspected AShM struck UAE warship by Houthi rebels, casualty unknown:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21 ... -operation
http://3g.china.com/act/military/111729 ... 20249.html (simplified Chinese)
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Suspected AShM struck UAE warship by Houthi rebels, casualty unknown:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21 ... -operation
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Alfred Thayer Mahan
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You are in luck. After 3 years, the rumored Yu-10 has been shown during Xi 's 09III visits in CCTV footage:ORIGINAL: Hongjian
For the next PLAN news update, some detective work yet again:
It is about the long-rumoured follow-on to the Yu-6 Heavy Weight Torpedo, reportedly designated the Yu-10.
It has, more or less, officially began with Bill Gertz usually alarmist, but rather reliable and authoritative article in the Washington Free Beacon about China "Testing a high-speed precision guided torpedo", accompanied with an ill-fitting photo of a Yu-7 LWT launch, dating November 14th 2013:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... d-torpedo/
Due to the typical cryptic and inexpressive nature of Chinese military report on which this Gertz article was based, it was largely ignored by the western PLA-Watching community.
Then, in Summer 2014, Chinese state media leaked some pictures of an unknown and never-seen-before heavy-weight torpedoe, featuring what could be flank-array and pump-jet propulsion according to some analysts:
More here:
http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/h/sli ... 9.html#p=1
Again, people didnt know what to do with these pictures and quickly forgot about them.
But now, Chinese military forums are buzzing with people discussing recent insider leaks about certain "Yu-8, Yu-9 and Yu-10 torpedos" having finished their trials and are being introduced into service for quite some weeks now. What makes me doubtful at first is that noone has ever heard anything about these designations at all. But now, after consistent buzzing over multiple chinese military BBS boards, and lots of "Big Shrimps" (Chinese term for insiders/leakers with well known credentials) supporting these rumours with selective leaks, I began digging deeper into that matter.
Coincidentially, Feng, a long-time fellow Chinese military blogger writing for Information Dissemination and Defense News, and who has good reputation among professional military analysts who are often quoting his posts, has written an entry mentioning the ongoing ruckus about the new torpedo:
http://www.informationdissemination.net ... naval.html
In his view, the Yu-10 rumours seem credible, as the PLAN has acknowledged the need for a high-speed and long ranged torpedo that is able to chase down the very fast and deep diving USN Nuclear Attack Submarines, as the previous Yu-3A and Yu-6 family arent all that suitable for that role anymore.
Today, a "Big Shrimp" has leaked the prospective stats of the Yu-10 heavy weight torpedo:
Translation:
Yu-10, the next generation heavy-weight torpedo and the successor of the current Yu-6, was long rumored to be roughly comparable to the Mk-48 Mod-6.
According to the big shrimp, the stats are following:
Low-speed not slower than 28 knots
Medium-speed 40 knots
Top-speed not slower than 55 knots
(possibly top speed still same as the Yu-6/Mk-48 i.e. 65 knots)
Smooth, level-less transition to the different speeds, resulting in low noise emission.
Maximum range of 60 km (at unknown speed)

If the specification is true with "Top Secret" importance, then range extension and bow passive sonars are giving US submarines some nightmares. On top of YJ-18 missile canister there are 4 black-painted Yu-10, meaning it has to be in service and is mass manufacturering.
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Finally!
According to big shrimp who was asked to comment on this shot: "All that someone need to know is the missile (bottom) is secret, the torp (top) is top secret"
This indicates two things: Not only that the Yu-10 is in mass-service, but also that the YJ-18 can be tube-launched like its Russian cousin.
According to big shrimp who was asked to comment on this shot: "All that someone need to know is the missile (bottom) is secret, the torp (top) is top secret"
This indicates two things: Not only that the Yu-10 is in mass-service, but also that the YJ-18 can be tube-launched like its Russian cousin.
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Also, President Xi's visit to the nuclear submarines has given us a treasure trove of new information about the secretive 09III Shang-class SSN/SSGN family.
There seem to be multiple versions of the B-modifications around, each with progressively smoother humpback and sail.

There seem to be multiple versions of the B-modifications around, each with progressively smoother humpback and sail.

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YLC-8B also joining the rank of long-range and portable anti-stealth radar alongside with JY-26, the one that featured in Commonwealth Collison DLC. It reported it can track 0.04m2 RCS of target at 'several hundred kilometers'. Estimated range will be the same JY-26 because of the frequency limitations.
https://www.twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/s ... 4495969280
The airshow also displayed other phased array radars in different working frequencies and purposes, serving as supplements for an entire land-based early warning system, so those are recommend to run as a set rather than an individual radar:
And YLC-29 is a passive surveillance radar to track stealth targets by reflection of civilians FM radio frequency, but didn't stated it's specification:
https://youtu.be/LzRMWRy3AnE
http://mil.huanqiu.com/observation/2017 ... 18602.html (Simplified Chinese)
https://www.twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/s ... 4495969280
The airshow also displayed other phased array radars in different working frequencies and purposes, serving as supplements for an entire land-based early warning system, so those are recommend to run as a set rather than an individual radar:
And YLC-29 is a passive surveillance radar to track stealth targets by reflection of civilians FM radio frequency, but didn't stated it's specification:
https://youtu.be/LzRMWRy3AnE
http://mil.huanqiu.com/observation/2017 ... 18602.html (Simplified Chinese)
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More geopolitical than purely defense related. But interesting.
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity ... sea-cables
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity ... sea-cables
“The study of history lies at the foundation of all sound military conclusions and practice.”
Alfred Thayer Mahan
Alfred Thayer Mahan
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KTRV finally show what "Grom" is
construction scheme:


all variants have INS + GLONASS targeting system ,first variant HE fragmentation warhead(315kg) + rocket booster - 9-A-7759 max range 120km in 400sek , second variant HE fragmentation warhead(315kg) + HE incendiary warhead(165kg) - 9-A1-7759 max range 65km in 260sek , third variant thermobaric warhead(250kg)+ thermobaric warhead(120kg) - 9-A2-7759 max range 65km in 260sek

telemetry variant :

Su-34 with "Grom" glide bombs


with Mig-29

Also "Grom" have variant with nuclear warhead
in 03.2018 "Grom" testing have 30 flight with 8 launch of telemetry missile + 5 "drops" in safety testing
precision in testing 4-10m (10m in test on max range 120km), test with INS only 76m
Planned end of trials 11.2018
construction scheme:


all variants have INS + GLONASS targeting system ,first variant HE fragmentation warhead(315kg) + rocket booster - 9-A-7759 max range 120km in 400sek , second variant HE fragmentation warhead(315kg) + HE incendiary warhead(165kg) - 9-A1-7759 max range 65km in 260sek , third variant thermobaric warhead(250kg)+ thermobaric warhead(120kg) - 9-A2-7759 max range 65km in 260sek

telemetry variant :

Su-34 with "Grom" glide bombs


with Mig-29

Also "Grom" have variant with nuclear warhead
in 03.2018 "Grom" testing have 30 flight with 8 launch of telemetry missile + 5 "drops" in safety testing
precision in testing 4-10m (10m in test on max range 120km), test with INS only 76m
Planned end of trials 11.2018
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JY-300 UAV with conformal AESA array. It is described as AWACS UAV, which will fulfill the role of air, ground, sea-search and missile defense, as well as providing targeting data for HQ-9B SAM to engage sea-skimmers over the horizon.
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-0 ... 0892.shtml


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-0 ... 0892.shtml


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I wouldn't call it an AWACS, because it has no "C"ontrol (and command) cabin. AEW drone is more likely to be called, and using other comm methods to tell pilots what to do.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... meras.html
"A team of researchers have developed a device that can make soldiers and vehicles disappear. Called the 'stealth sheet,' it's a paper-thin device that can obscure objects from being detected by a drone's infrared cameras."
Lead scientist was born in China. Similarly, a Chinese researcher is working on new sub propulsion.
https://today.uconn.edu/2018/05/uconn-r ... ine-power/
I am sure this is not uncommon at American Universities and there are few bad actors. But it must be difficult to track all the research all the time. I wonder how many Americans are working in China on military related technology?
"A team of researchers have developed a device that can make soldiers and vehicles disappear. Called the 'stealth sheet,' it's a paper-thin device that can obscure objects from being detected by a drone's infrared cameras."
Lead scientist was born in China. Similarly, a Chinese researcher is working on new sub propulsion.
https://today.uconn.edu/2018/05/uconn-r ... ine-power/
I am sure this is not uncommon at American Universities and there are few bad actors. But it must be difficult to track all the research all the time. I wonder how many Americans are working in China on military related technology?
“The study of history lies at the foundation of all sound military conclusions and practice.”
Alfred Thayer Mahan
Alfred Thayer Mahan
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ORIGINAL: kevinkin
"A team of researchers have developed a device that can make soldiers and vehicles disappear. Called the 'stealth sheet,' it's a paper-thin device that can obscure objects from being detected by a drone's infrared cameras."
Is it built by metamaterial? If yes, China was demonstrated it publicly too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvfOA0xVtdE
I wonder how many Americans are working in China on military related technology?
Many.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... ilborn.pdf
But I cannot tell what was happened after 1989. Otherwise, some areas like aerospace and other civilian project can still have some foreigners involved.
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http://www.janes.com/article/81230/isra ... to-service
https://www.jpost.com//Israel-News/Isra ... edo-560345
Any suggestions as to what torpedo?
Black shark,Seahake?
http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/black-shark
https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/soluti ... -mod4.html
https://www.jpost.com//Israel-News/Isra ... edo-560345
Any suggestions as to what torpedo?
Black shark,Seahake?
http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/black-shark
https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/soluti ... -mod4.html