CC Weapons on Heavy and Assault titans.

IKerensky · Post by **IKerensky** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:29 pm

HUm, I wont see a goo d sniping titan thatcan be good without making ACTIVE SCAN and lauching FLare from time tlo time to defend ( that was teh meaning of my sentence ). here is what I had in mind.

What I had in mind is that the extra time I lose to be fully ready to fire ( weapon ready all of them and heat 0 ) is commonly used to get a green/yellow scan or get some flare launched. Remember I never play with ACE pilot ( I just think that to be a bit silly to always plays with 200t AT and supermans ) so my green scan require 15 secs- 18 secs, launching a flare is 9 secs and so on... so while I am waiting to reload I usually use this time to get a better scan or defend myself, the fact that those task use sometimes more time than my better erload time ( with better engine ), mean that I usually dont need that much a better engine , cause I only fire shoot after shoot when I get a green scan and when I am to this point I usually will be changing target soon and beginning again the process. Keep in mind that this is a nice Light combo for a medium level pilots,in the hand of an ace pilot it is too slow, but an Ace pilot will use the Heavy models with better gear...

Hum, did I put NM14 in the arms, yes you bet I did, and I am ashamed to have had to do so <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> but sometimes there is no way to do othewise so...
And I think I mistake the 100t and 70t models 70t have 2NM14 2NM7 5.99 armor index, the 100T have 4NM14 4.72 armor index. I change from 5 to 4 NM14 to get extra armor and ammo ( and because it leave me with not so many space for a medium, anyway 4 is already nice ).

Yes you are right about the others are not immediate danger, even if NB can hit pretty well from 10 hex or so. But if you concentrate too much on getting an hard long range target you risk to let them near you far too much for your confort. Anyway any discussion about possible outcome of possible encounter between proable team in all and every game will only result in endless and empty discussions <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

So to close on this topic: CC weapons on heavy or Assault are just useless pieces of junk.

tarendelcymir · Post by **tarendelcymir** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:42 pm

So to close on this topic: CC weapons on heavy or Assault are just useless pieces of junk.

Thank you. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[ October 24, 2001: Message edited by: tarendelcymir ]</p>

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:45 pm

Originally posted by Ivan GREYWOLF Kerensky:
So to close on this topic: CC weapons on heavy or Assault are just useless pieces of junk.

Not for chopping wood ! We will add resource gathering and base building to ToS IV called Titans of Steel- Chopping Woods ! You have to gather wood and catch fishes. Wait for our infamous power fishnet which only uses 1 slot but causes a skill check against your fishing skill or you will get entangled.

tarendelcymir · Post by **tarendelcymir** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 9:35 pm

Laughing my ass off over here, picturing a titan going fishing...

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 10:14 pm

We already do it Michael, when we're stuck facing the old man and he has us face down in water for half the game... <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

tarendelcymir · Post by **tarendelcymir** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 12:39 am

LOL, too true!

rosary · Post by **rosary** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:11 am

Originally posted by Larkin [Vicious Byte]:

Not for chopping wood ! We will add resource gathering and base building to ToS IV called Titans of Steel- Chopping Woods ! You have to gather wood and catch fishes. Wait for our infamous power fishnet which only uses 1 slot but causes a skill check against your fishing skill or you will get entangled.

I thought we were going to name it Titans of Steel IV: Barbie's Shopping spree. My mistake. I better cancel that order of T-Shirts.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:19 pm

Originally posted by Ivan GREYWOLF Kerensky:
What I had in mind is that the extra time I lose to be fully ready to fire ( weapon ready all of them and heat 0 ) is commonly used to get a green/yellow scan or get some flare launched. Remember I never play with ACE pilot ( I just think that to be a bit silly to always plays with 200t AT and supermans ) so my green scan require 15 secs- 18 secs, launching a flare is 9 secs and so on... so while I am waiting to reload I usually use this time to get a better scan or defend myself, the fact that those task use sometimes more time than my better erload time ( with better engine ), mean that I usually dont need that much a better engine , cause I only fire shoot after shoot when I get a green scan and when I am to this point I usually will be changing target soon and beginning again the process. Keep in mind that this is a nice Light combo for a medium level pilots,in the hand of an ace pilot it is too slow, but an Ace pilot will use the Heavy models with better gear...

Hum, did I put NM14 in the arms, yes you bet I did, and I am ashamed to have had to do so <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> but sometimes there is no way to do othewise so...
And I think I mistake the 100t and 70t models 70t have 2NM14 2NM7 5.99 armor index, the 100T have 4NM14 4.72 armor index. I change from 5 to 4 NM14 to get extra armor and ammo ( and because it leave me with not so many space for a medium, anyway 4 is already nice ).

Yes you are right about the others are not immediate danger, even if NB can hit pretty well from 10 hex or so. But if you concentrate too much on getting an hard long range target you risk to let them near you far too much for your confort.

Flares have a duration of 30+ secs, so you don't need to be launching them every reload. 15 secs is the optimum reload time of PGs, so your scans will fit the reload time when you get a yellow.
So what you mean is those titans you designed are only good for your team. Ok then, I think that's settled.
By heavier models do you mean the 4 PGs model? Hmmm... Ace or no ace, better gear or not, well, I don't know. I think you might still be too attached to BT.

You're making too many mistakes when you talk about your titans. You had 5+ NM14s now only 2 and 4... <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> I bet in no time you'll be using arm mounted weapons in all your titans and JPs. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

NBs have a max range of 9, and they have an accuracy penalty of -10%. They don't worry me in low level jocks, as their effect depends on the to hit roll.