Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

[jesperpehrson]

Nice work Adam. 

[jesperpehrson]

61 units added to the total. This makes it a total of 1061 landunits in need of writeups. We have done 44 percent of those.

The UK is looking for attention. So are all the ART in the game. Other than that some minor countries are still unattended. If you are man enough to take on any of these don´t hesitate to send me a PM! [;)]

[jesperpehrson]

One of Adams americans!

[michaelbaldur]

what is the air corps ...... is the right words air force ..... or is it a paratrooper corps ..... it´s not clear ...

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

what is the air corps ...... is the right words air force ..... or is it a paratrooper corps ..... it´s not clear ...

The US Air Force was not created until after WW II. Prior to that it was the Army Air Corps (when we sing their anthem I always have to consciously think to sing the words US Air Crops instead of Army Air Corps, which is how I first learned it).

The strucutre for units fighting in the air kept splinterring, so the navy and marines also have their own air combat branches.

[Mziln]

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

what is the air corps ...... is the right words air force ..... or is it a paratrooper corps ..... it´s not clear ...

Durring WW I and WW II it was named the U. S. Army Air Corps. After that it became the U. S. Air Force.

[mldtchdog]

ORIGINAL: Mziln

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

what is the air corps ...... is the right words air force ..... or is it a paratrooper corps ..... it´s not clear ...

Durring WW I and WW II it was named the U. S. Army Air Corps. After that it became the U. S. Air Force.

I've changed the wording to make this clearer. ...the U.S. Army Air Corps, the air force, and for parachute triaining for the new airborne divisions being formed.

[jesperpehrson]

I could use a hand with some of the British colonies, if someone has some information available.

I have found next to nothing about the Egyptian forces, except an OOB which could be useful with other more anecdotial information.

I have nothing on Kenya except that their soldiers fought in the King´s African Rifles, same goes for Uganda and the two Rhodesias..

As for Palestine I am uncertain what to write, should I include the Trans-Jordan Arab Legion, or the Jewish soldiers that fought for the British, or the few actual Palestinian Arabs that joined the British Army?

Most of what I got so far is about the KAR and something called the West African Frontier Force. Perhaps someone has a bit of information in an obscure book in their bookshelf? Any help would be appreciated. [:)]

[dale1066]

I've looked through WSCs The second world war and there is not much detail there except for a few pages and a map of the British campaign to oust Italian forces in Ethiopia.

Here are a couple of tantalising leads to be followed up on maybe

Wingate, he of the Chindits fame, was in charge of a Soudanese battalion who took part in said ethiopian campaign.

During the Summer of '41 "native troops under belgian command " came 2,000 miles from the congo and also assisted in said campaign

In early '41 there were 70'000 men in Aden and Kenya on pay and ration strength, In terms of fighting forces these were two south african brigades, two west african brigades and "local east african forces"

He also mentions a west african brigade stationed in East africa returning to West africa (Freetown) for garrison duties.

he also came up with a plan to use italian arms captured in Ethiopia to "equip the Shadow Brigade now forming in freetown or there abouts" This unit was expanded to a division and led by around 400 polish officers who all "served with high credit"

I'll keep digging



all in all not that much use I'm afraid

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: capitan

I could use a hand with some of the British colonies, if someone has some information available.

I have found next to nothing about the Egyptian forces, except an OOB which could be useful with other more anecdotial information.

I have nothing on Kenya except that their soldiers fought in the King´s African Rifles, same goes for Uganda and the two Rhodesias..

As for Palestine I am uncertain what to write, should I include the Trans-Jordan Arab Legion, or the Jewish soldiers that fought for the British, or the few actual Palestinian Arabs that joined the British Army?

Most of what I got so far is about the KAR and something called the West African Frontier Force. Perhaps someone has a bit of information in an obscure book in their bookshelf? Any help would be appreciated. [:)]

Have you got the texts that I had posted about the countries of the CW Empire, from the 1940 Collier World Atlas & Gazetteer ? Maybe there was nothing about the countries you are looking for ?

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: dale1066

I've looked through WSCs The second world war and there is not much detail there except for a few pages and a map of the British campaign to oust Italian forces in Ethiopia.

Here are a couple of tantalising leads to be followed up on maybe

Wingate, he of the Chindits fame, was in charge of a Soudanese battalion who took part in said ethiopian campaign.

During the Summer of '41 "native troops under belgian command " came 2,000 miles from the congo and also assisted in said campaign

In early '41 there were 70'000 men in Aden and Kenya on pay and ration strength, In terms of fighting forces these were two south african brigades, two west african brigades and "local east african forces"

He also mentions a west african brigade stationed in East africa returning to West africa (Freetown) for garrison duties.

he also came up with a plan to use italian arms captured in Ethiopia to "equip the Shadow Brigade now forming in freetown or there abouts" This unit was expanded to a division and led by around 400 polish officers who all "served with high credit"

I'll keep digging


all in all not that much use I'm afraid

I actually have most of those leads in the writeups. The polish officers are there, so is the west african brigade and the belgians marching through the Congo. The Sudan defense force is also in.

Please keep digging cause I am stumped! [:)]

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: Froonp
Have you got the texts that I had posted about the countries of the CW Empire, from the 1940 Collier World Atlas & Gazetteer ? Maybe there was nothing about the countries you are looking for ?

I am using your texts for sure, they are of great help. But I am also looking for something more to make the colonial troops more specific and less generic. Perhaps there are things to be found.

I am done with Sierra Leone, Nigeria, British Somaliland and Sudan. I have Egypt, The Rhodesisas, Aden, Uganda, Kenya and Tanganyika to do.

[mldtchdog]

Try here. I think you'll like.
 
http://homepages.force9.net/rothwell/egypt.htm
 

[Greyshaft]

ORIGINAL: mldtchdog

Try here. I think you'll like.

http://homepages.force9.net/rothwell/egypt.htm

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URL requested (/rothwell/egypt.htm) not found

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: mldtchdog

Try here. I think you'll like.

http://homepages.force9.net/rothwell/egypt.htm

Thank you Adam, that page has everything I need for the Egyptians, Palestinians and the rest of the African colonies. Now it seems I am just lacking for Aden.

[dale1066]

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/swboo ... T-ADEN.htm

I guess this book would help if anyone can get a copy

Last post: Aden, 1964-67
ISBN # 0571087205

But there is an immense amount of information tucked away between the covers. Every single unit to have been raised in the former Aden Protectorates from 1839 until independence is listed and described.

Also found a ref to various formations from the Yemen but again no details still googling

Aden Protectorate Levies 1928-1961
Government Guards 1938-1959
Hadrami Bedouin Legion 1940-1967

Also found an OB
The British Army Overseas and the Colonies on 3 September 1939

The Middle East

A. Aden
HQ British Troops Aden
HQ Royal Artillery Aden
The Aden Signal Section, Royal Corps of Signals
Detachment, 8th Anti-Aircraft Battery, Royal Artillery
9th (Minden) Heavy Battery, Royal Artillery
20th Fortress Company, Royal Engineers
2/5th Mahratta Light Infantry: Khormaksar
The Aden Protectorate Levies: Khormaksar

Western Aden Protectorate
Government Guards
Tribal Guards
Lahej Trained Forces

Eastern Aden Protectorate
Kathiri Armed Constabulary
Mukalla Regular Army

[jesperpehrson]

Good post Dale, thanks. How are they Yugos coming along btw?

The book seems awfully pricey so I will have to use the information you posted and some other stuff I might find.

[mldtchdog]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

ORIGINAL: mldtchdog

Try here. I think you'll like.

http://homepages.force9.net/rothwell/egypt.htm

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URL requested (/rothwell/egypt.htm) not found

if this didnt work google "british and commonwealth orders of battle"

[dale1066]

Know any one who can read serbian [:(]

Seriously I've found a site with a complete OB but need to get permission to use their info.
I've got the Oxford companion to WWII out of the library and it has some good general stuff on Yugoslavia plus just about anything else, Aden gets just a small paragraph unfotunately.

re book I'll check the local library you never know, I've a couple of books on order re Tito from there so could try and add that you never know

Gotta go Footy and Rugby on decisions, decisions.....

[cockney]

I've got a basic knowlage of Croatian, (same spoken language, but serb is written in cyrilc, whilst croat is in the latin alphabet)