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While I agree pretty much with what you've both said I'll point out that asking PzB what sort of operation he's trying to run is hardly giving any intel away.

ANY operation is either a diversion/delay, an attempt to gain territory or an attempt to kill enemy forces ( or some minor mix of the three ). Let's not over-react with the, you can't post in two threads thing. You can't post strategic advice etc in 2 threads but is someone seriously saying you can't ask a barn-door question like that?
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That's good etiquette Joe! These are important turns in the game, so it's important to keep Andy guessing.
You all know what's being discussed in Andy's thread, so I'm sure you're playing it safe Nemo.

I accelerated 2 Katsuragi class carriers today; will follow the development of naval construction points.
- I don't have many subs to turn off, only those that have started their production run can be turned off.
Also love my submarine service and wouldn't like to loose a single boat [:)]

When the Hiyo, Ryujo and Musashi are completed I should be able to accelerate the Shinano, Taiho and remaining Katsuragi's.
NB! In scen 2 the Shinano is a Taiho class carrier and the left over steel is used for another few light cruisers.

Ok todays main news: We finished the convoy of AKL's and found another large cluster of unescorted ships south of the KB.
Andy told me his AKL's had run out of fuel; this must be the case with this large convoy as well, fleeing head over heels as we came to pay them a visit! [8D] I didn't know about this convoy so it came as a surprise - another 20 ships sent to Davy Jones locker for the cost of 1 Kate bomber....

The only drawback is that we spent way to many torpedoes; I now have to turn them off again and only turn them on when I expect to engage enemy carriers. I really need a switch for these precious weapons 1. When enemy ships are spotted use only bombs against non-navy vessels. - If there are incidents of mistaken identities that would be fine...but wasting the Empires long lances on dead in the water targets is poodoo!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 17, 42

Invasions

Ok we're invading Carnarvon; just a minor enemy presence her, but it has the potential of holding numerous airfields.
The importance of this base increased as we got bogged down further south. Now this is our supply line and retreat path if it should come to that. I will also build airfields and provide air support from here.

Pre-Invasion action off Carnarvon

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Shiokaze
DD Yunagi
PB Magan Maru
APD Tade
DMS W-5

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Naka firing at Sorong Det. Base Force
DD Shiokaze firing at Sorong Det. Base Force
DD Yunagi firing at Sorong Det. Base Force
PB Magan Maru firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Carnarvon

TF 279 troops unloading over beach at Carnarvon, 49,133

Japanese ground losses:
254 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Surface Combat

Ok the Atago swept in and finished the light cargo vessles west of Perth, done deal but the ship _should_
have used its secondary armament, instead it wasted torpedoes and half its main armament ammo :-\

Night Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 12,147, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago

Allied Ships
xAKL Memphis City, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Selma City, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Argus, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Surigao, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAKL Lorinna, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Sjobris, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Reduced sighting due to 7% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 7% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 8,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
xAKL Sjobris sunk by CA Atago at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Selma City at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAKL Memphis City sunk by CA Atago at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
xAKL Surigao sunk by CA Atago at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
xAKL Lorinna sunk by CA Atago at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Selma City at 8,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Argus at 8,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Selma City at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Selma City at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAKL Argus at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
xAKL Selma City sunk by CA Atago at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
xAKL Argus sunk by CA Atago at 7,000 yards
xAKL Argus sunk by CA Atago at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

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Air Combat

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Albany at 50,170
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N2 Kate x 35
D3A1 Val x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Jeff Davis, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK San Bernadino, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Mormacland
xAP Mungana, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Maine, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ellaroo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Goulburn, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Diomed, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Pennsylvanian, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Am. Builder, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Jeff Davis dead in the water ...
San Bernadino dead in the water ...
Mungana dead in the water ...
Maine dead in the water ...
Ellaroo dead in the water ...
Goulburn dead in the water ...
Diomed dead in the water ...
Pennsylvanian dead in the water ...
Am. Builder dead in the water ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Albany at 50,170

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Panaman, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Nightingale, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Panaman dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Panaman
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Nightingale
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Albany at 50,170
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
B5N2 Kate x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Wallingford, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Admiral Nulton, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK West Planter, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Iron Baron, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Age
xAP Murada, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AG Sirius
xAK Virginian
xAK Dorothy Philips, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AVP Thrush, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK West Notus, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ellaroo, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Aeon, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK West Ivis, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Mormacland, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
22 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
22 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Wallingford dead in the water ...
Admiral Nulton dead in the water ...
West Planter dead in the water ...
Iron Baron dead in the water ...
Age dead in the water ...
Murada dead in the water ...
Dorothy Philips dead in the water ...
Thrush dead in the water ...
West Notus dead in the water ...
Ellaroo dead in the water ...
Aeon dead in the water ...
West Ivis dead in the water ...
Mormacland dead in the water ...

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D(r)ead in the water....



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 18, 42

Sub Attacks

A rare kill by a fleet sub...minor victim fortunately. Been putting mines near Lunga but is all out of mines.

Submarine attack near Feni Islands at 107,127

Japanese Ships
CMc Enoshima, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Searaven

CMc Enoshima is sighted by SS Searaven
SS Searaven launches 4 torpedoes at CMc Enoshima

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Launched a midget sub against Pearl, another has been launched at Karachi and yet another at Suva and still others
at Sydney and Melbourne. No hits in all my attempts; real life results were better. Maybe the chance of success should be upped to one in fifteen or?

Took a snap at a dd in Pearl, but missed as well.

Submarine attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-16

Allied Ships
DD Grayson

DD Grayson is sighted by SS I-16
SS I-16 launches 6 torpedoes

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Air Combat

We finish the derelict convoy!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Albany at 49,170

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
B5N2 Kate x 22
D3A1 Val x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Age, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Admiral Chase, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AG Sirius, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Tamara, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Virginian, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Albany at 49,170

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Virginian, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Admiral Chase, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Age, and is sunk

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Ground Combat

Ok we got our rear covered;

Ground combat at Carnarvon (49,133)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1066 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
Defending force 120 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 5
Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Carnarvon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
II./124th Infantry Battalion
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /5
Singapore Det

Defending units:
Sorong Det. Base Force

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Err, can someone explain this to me; 16 guns and 6 vehicles and 172 casualties [&:]

Ground combat at Geraldton (49,141)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 581 troops, 16 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 286
Defending force 9802 troops, 143 guns, 155 vehicles, Assault Value = 322

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Geraldton Fortress
10th Light Horse Battalion
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
27th Infantry/A Division
27th Infantry/C Division
1st RAN Base Force

Defending units:
1st Engineer Co
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
65th Bde /11
40th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment

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Err, can someone explain this to me; 16 guns and 6 vehicles and 172 casualties [&:]

Really, really, big guns. [;)]
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Yeah like [font="arial"]Geraldton Battery [/font][font="arial"](US Navy - 2 x 4" guns) [8|][/font]
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I'm thinking your troops are in the open (not fortified) + a good die roll.
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Fascinating AAR for both of you...this one has been interesting to say the least!
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I'd be interested to know if your heavy equipment unloaded at Geraldton with those xAKs.

Also, Kates don't carry long lances. [:D]

I'm a bit surprised KB isn't out of sorties completely with all the fighting. How are you resupplying?
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Err, can someone explain this to me; 16 guns and 6 vehicles and 172 casualties [&:]

Ground combat at Geraldton (49,141)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 581 troops, 16 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 286
Defending force 9802 troops, 143 guns, 155 vehicles, Assault Value = 322

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Geraldton Fortress
10th Light Horse Battalion
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
27th Infantry/A Division
27th Infantry/C Division
1st RAN Base Force

Defending units:
1st Engineer Co
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
65th Bde /11
40th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment


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easily explained I guess, CLEAR terrain (or desert?). Artillery is a killer in a clear hex, no matter which side. It has been toned down (or at least should have been toned down) with the latest patch as there was a bug enabling every artillery unit firing at EVERY unit in the enemy´s stack. I still wouldn´t want to meet a dozen artillery units in a clear hex after the patch.
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I don't buy the arty casualties; we've dug in for over a week in the Geraldton base hex which is a built up town and irrigated? hex. Too few guns and too heavy casualties still.

KB got plenty of sorties, have hardly spent 20% of total - just not too many torps left.
Resupply is with the replenishment TF, when troops are ashore we need to RTB to replenish strikes.

Most heavy equipment was unloaded at Geraldton, some was lost and I'm moving a 65th Bde remnant back to base as we
withdrew out ships before all was unloaded. Looks like Andy has moved 2 of the 3 divisional regiments out of Geraldton - they're heading south.

Tomorrow we're landing at Esperance; was spotted by enemy AC today. It's a size 3 port and we got an LSD, AP's and AK's.
Hope we manage to unload in fashion this time.

Thx Venividi, hope it doesn't turn to exciting!-)


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 19, 42

ASW Attacks

We spotted a huge surface combat TF moving west towards Melbourne, the different locations show
how it move west. Our sub was hit by depth charges and has to RTB.

- Notice the British battleships here

ASW attack near Flinders Island at 84,174

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
DD Shaw
BB Resolution
BB Warspite
BB New Mexico
CA Astoria
CL St. Louis
CL Detroit
DD Gilmer
DD Dent
DD Express
DD Thanet
DD Scout
DD Schley
DD Chew
DD Bulmer
DD Allen
DD Balch
DD Phelps
DD Tucker
DD Gwin
DD Hatfield
DD Lawrence
DD King
DD Sands

SS I-124 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Shaw
DD Hatfield fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD King attacking submerged sub ....
DD King cannot reach attack position over SS I-124
DD King cannot reach attack position over SS I-124
DD King cannot establish contact with SS I-124
DD Sands fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lawrence fails to find sub and abandons search
DD King fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Burnie at 82,174

Japanese Ships
SS I-124, hits 4

Allied Ships
BB Resolution
BB Warspite
BB New Mexico
CA Astoria
CL St. Louis
CL Detroit
DD Gilmer
DD Dent
DD Express
DD Thanet
DD Scout
DD Schley
DD Chew
DD Bulmer
DD Allen
DD Balch
DD Phelps
DD Tucker
DD Shaw
DD Gwin
DD Hatfield
DD Lawrence
DD King
DD Sands

SS I-124 is sighted by escort
DD Hatfield fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lawrence fails to find sub and abandons search
DD King attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sands fails to find sub and abandons search
Escort abandons search for sub

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Air Combat

Sent several sweeps over Rockhampton; enemy AF seems to be gone and number of troops
is reduced!

Morning Air attack on Rockhampton , at 95,152
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

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Ground Combat

Andy is probing to see if his 4E's have killed my troops, but nope!

Ground combat at Oodnadatta (74,149)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 58 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7
Defending force 768 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 12

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2/7th Ind Coy
2nd USMC Parachute Bn /13

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /15

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Still strangely heavy casualties....

Ground combat at Geraldton (49,141)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 581 troops, 16 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 173
Defending force 9761 troops, 143 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 318

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Geraldton Fortress
10th Light Horse Battalion
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
27th Infantry/C Division
1st RAN Base Force

Defending units:
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Engineer Co
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Bde /11
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
40th Field AA Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment

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Advice please - will this work?

I'm also sortying the Mini KB from Rabaul, want to stir up some anxiety on the east coast of Oz and it's possible
that the Mini KB will link up with the KB.

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Do you have real APs? Or are they xAPs? If they are real APs, where did you get them? I went looking to see if any of my xAPs would convert, I didn't find any.

Are you planning to land in non-base hexes?
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What do you mean real AP's? With AP's I mean troop transports, Japan doesn't have anything else and nothing convert to APAs!?
- Yes, I'm planning to land over a broader invasion front like in Normandy from Port Augusta to Adelaide area.

My fear is that I will be stuck unloading for 2 weeks while getting bombed and attacked so heavily that all troops suffer 50% casualties and get bogged down. - Even that is ok if we can capture our targets.
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Just to clarify, an xAP is a passenger liner. An AP is an actual naval vessel that unloads much faster than an xAP. An APA, of course, is even better.

Japan does have a number of AKs to start with and some xAKs can be converted early on. In June a whole lot of xAKs can be converted to AKs. I have found the AKs unload very fast. I have a special amphibious TF of AKs and LSDs. The only problem with using AKs rather than APs is that disruption accumulates twice as fast: 2 per day rather 1 per day.

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When moving 120k troops you have to bring all your tubs....including some AK-t's but not that many.
We will have to go in and win the day with numbers me thinks, just hope the price won't be to heavy.


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As an invader , you don't get the port facilities to help landing imo, so unloading from ambhibious TF's will be the same rate everywhere unless you capture the ports then they'll help enormously.

as for advice ?? sorry i can't help and i suspect no-ones ever tried this post the japanese landing bonus expiring, maybe just have to suck it and see.

CAP - I have seen some Japanese xAK's that convert to non x AP's. Not noticed any xAP's being able to convert mind you , I have v limited exp as Japanese however so could very well be wrong.
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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It is too late now, but I found that if possible, xAKs are better than xAPs because of the shallow loading. The more deeply you load, the longer to unload. Of course, you already know that.
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I don't buy the arty casualties; we've dug in for over a week in the Geraldton base hex which is a built up town and irrigated? hex. Too few guns and too heavy casualties still.

I thought you said his guys still hold the town and your guys are outside the town?
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Fighting in and around the outskirst of the town I guess, after a week there would be trenches and some fixed lines.
Each gun claiming 10 casualties; that means a direct hit with each round.

Yes I know Rob, capturing Adelaide would be a must early on but the causalties from continued coastal arty rounds would wreck a lot of ships and troops. I can land 4 divisions there, the question is if we should go for 2 and land the rest in nearby towns with less defences, then we would be able to get our bridge head and race to the support of our troops in Adelaide.

Today we went ashort at Esperance, looks like a Marine Battalion is there; if they stall an engineer regiment and a full inf div I'll turn about and go home!-) Dropping some para's to disrupt the base to the north, don't want a wagon load of troops on the beaches tomorrow.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 20, 42

Air Combat

Tomorrow we attack Alice Springs; air combat blossoms.
Strangely the P-40s have gotten the better of my best Oscars from start to end.
6 - 2 in A2A today, thought the P-40 sucked at lower altitudes and wasn't very good for fighter combat.

Morning Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 74,143 (Alice Springs)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
20th PS (P) with P-400 Airacobra (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 19000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 8th Recon Regiment, at 74,143 (Alice Springs)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8
P-400 Airacobra x 8

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Katherine RAAF Base Force, at 74,143 (Alice Springs)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
G4M1 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

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Ground Combat and Invasions

Pre-Invasion action off Esperance
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma
LSD Akitsu Maru

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Kuma firing at 1st Marine Raider Battalion
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Amphibious Assault at Esperance

TF 126 troops unloading over beach at Esperance, 56,153

Japanese ground losses:
243 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)

19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt /2

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Ground combat at Geraldton (49,141)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 577 troops, 15 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 173
Defending force 9804 troops, 143 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 327

Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Geraldton Fortress
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
10th Light Horse Battalion
27th Infantry/C Division
1st RAN Base Force

Defending units:
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Engineer Co
40th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment

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Invasion Progress

The link with Alice Springs is rather important, if we can rail troops to and from Port Augusta and later on towards
Perth one of our main goals will be achieved.


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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac

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Hi... so Geraldton and Esperance are without air cover now, right?
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Geraldton is until we build the base to the north we just captured...
KB has provided air cover over Esperance; at 10 hexes only level bombers from Perth can hit us so I feel reasonably safe to remove it now as we have already started landings and established a weak enemy defense.
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