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PZB, thank you for all the time you devoted to this AAR. It was a pleasure reading it. You fought like a true Samurai! [:)]

Pitty for the late war bugs in the game or the inabillity to build new ships. Exterminate the bugs! [:D]

Once again, congratulations!

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hoda - has your aar been taken off the site - i cant get to it anymore?

Hi, here is the link to Honda's aar

tm.asp?m=1392935

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BTW What happened to Pauk's AAR? Bulk of the aar is simply gone![X(]

Can this be fixed in any way?
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Hi, here is the link to Honda's aar

tm.asp?m=1392935

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i meant the one on the croatian forum that he has a link to in his sig - it doesnt link to the AAR anymore and its disappeared off the forum it seems

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ORIGINAL: undercovergeek

Hi, here is the link to Honda's aar

tm.asp?m=1392935

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i meant the one on the croatian forum that he has a link to in his sig - it doesnt link to the AAR anymore and its disappeared off the forum it seems


I just checked and it seems that you're right! Crap, i'll ask Honda what happened. Stay tuned [:)]
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thanks - i was steadily translating that with the help of trusty google translator!!!
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Hey geek :)
I'll be sure to inform the oppressing administrator that there is still one reader left and that his action were totally uncalled for, unjust and unworthy of any self respecting admin.
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most kind - thankyou - unless he wants to just email me the content!!
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Thanks again PzB! Can't wait for final stats, I am curious how many A/C bit the dust.
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YOu'll find the AAR is available now. However, not permanently so put that translator of yours to work :)
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most kind - thankyou - unless he wants to just email me the content!!
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Thanx guys, it has been a good show! [:)]

A WitP game is a true investment in time and effort and I've decided that from now on I have to concentrate on smaller games that takes less time. In the General Forum there's news about the next Eastern Front game by Matrix and Gary Grigsby. Really looking forward to this one.

Admirals Edition of WitP I'll save until retirement age [;)]
Will be good to read AARs and follow it's development though, Andy & co are doing a great job.
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Great game, surely one of the classics, if not THE classic.

I'd say definitely "The Classic".
Great job PzB, Andy et al, just to go so far. What a journey!
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Summaries I

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Thanx Joe, we would never have gotten this far without your support! [:)][&o]

Ok here comes the final summary.
If there is one last advice for the AE team, pleaase add better summaries over shipping losses.
Today I added together ca 4000 sunk ships of all classes, need an auto summary system here.
Also need a date next to each ship that was sunk. This would allow lots of interesting statistics to be made!

Since so much time, effort and blood has been put into this mega campaign I found it only fair to list the enormous number of lost vessels, aircraft and men.

Air Losses

Allies flew ca 8.5 million sorties during the war compared with 5.8 million Japanese.
I find it a tad difficult to calculate exactly how many ac were lost on both sides since the counters have gone around and now list negative.

Can anyone help with this?


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Japanese top scoring ace of all times: Ensign Matsuyama .B with 34 confirmed kills.
An even bigger feat...he survived!

As the screens under show Japan had 3319 ac left when the war ended.
These were mostly mediocre experienced units, but the Shinden units were very powerful and caused the Allies huge losses.

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Ship losses

Since no more ships could be laid down after 08/45 the yards lay idle while the Combined Fleet was destroyed. At 01/46 the following combat ships were still afloat:

2 battleships
1 light cruiser
1 destroyer
1 seaplane tender
2 patrol craft
6 mine sweepers
13 submarines

As you can see hardly any of these were operational.

Japan lost 1772 points of shipping while Allies lost 2044.

Japanese shipping losses:

15 aircraft carriers
8 light carriers
9 escort carriers
10 battleships
18 heavy cruisers
25 light cruisers
1 seaplane tender
12 destroyer transports
200 destroyers
138 submarines
6 PTs
347 patrol craft
44 minelayers
2 MLE
218 minesweepers
12 auxiliaries
80 tankers
11 fleet oilers
305 troop transports
311 cargo ships

Allied shipping losses

5 aircraft carriers
4 light carriers
37 escort carriers
1 battlecruiser
17 battleships
5 anti aircraft cruisers
26 light cruisers
23 heavy cruisers
201 destroyers
59 destroyer escorts
45 fast destroyer transports
7 destroyer minelayers
18 destroyers minesweepers
99 LCI types
53 LS types
18 patrol craft
43 sub chasers
129 PT boats
118 minesweepers
1 MLE
6 minelayers
37 auxiliaries
139 submarines
58 tankers
7 fleet oilers
66 troop transports
684 cargo ships

These losses are just awesome and show just how many vessels that went down in a good 4 year period. Eeach day for some 1500 days of war 2-3 ships went down!

The Japanese merchant marine lost ca 60-65% of all its ships, but I actually halted production of replacements as there were enough left to meet the demands of the shrinking Empire.
The Allied submarine campaign was therefore much less effective than in real life.

I also halted the giant carrier Shinano, except from this only the bugged HA class subs have not been launched.


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Industry

Ample resources left in the pools, although most oil reserves were trapped outside the isolated Home Islands. Heavy industry pool was large enough to last another half year or so.

Allied heavy bombing campaigns crippled Mitsubishi engine output, and this became the biggest choke point, but this was addressed by giving Shinden aircraft priority since we were on the defensive anyway.

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Finally I'd like to have a last look at the Empire in 01/46:

India

In India we still hold onto the central area around Calcutta.
Allied landings recaptured Ceylon and forced an advance north towards Bombay and Karachi.
Bombay was under sieg and would most likely have fallen after another xx days of siege warfare.
Karachi would most likely have been an impossible nut to crack.



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Calcutta - Burma Area

Except some minor enemy para landings very little action took place in Burma
and Calcutta area after we occupied it.

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Indo China Area

Malaya and Indo China were mostly recaptured by the Allies, isolating Sumatra and oil reserves there.


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ORIGINAL: PzB

If there is one last advice for the AE team, pleaase add better summaries over shipping losses.
Today I added together ca 4000 sunk ships of all classes, need an auto summary system here.
Also need a date next to each ship that was sunk. This would allow lots of interesting statistics to be made!

Done!



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Borneo - Java

The southern part of Borneo and parts of Sulawesit were also occupied by the Allies, efficiently
cutting of Java from the rest of the Empire.

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That's great Joe, only thing I miss then is a summary of how many ships of each class that has been lost!

Central Pacific

After the fall of New Britain and the Marshalls the Allied drive was stopped dead in the Marianas and Bonins. The heavy forts and unlimited garrisons saw to that, but it was a close call for some time. Enemy occupied most of southern and Central New Guinea, but bypassed many bases in the process.

Some of the best battles of the war were fought around Rabaul, really a great period in the game from mid 42 to mid 43!


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