Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Looking really good it has to be said - how he's going to get those ships out of the DEI to somewhere useful is going to require quite a bit of effort (if he can do it at all)
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Aug 25th, 1943
Always viewed Indochina as incredibly important to Japan...especially Vinh. The low risk tactic taking the war forward would be a ground advance along the Chinese Coastline.
Always viewed Indochina as incredibly important to Japan...especially Vinh. The low risk tactic taking the war forward would be a ground advance along the Chinese Coastline.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Lots of typical destroyer fights but Yamato disappears most likely south....
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Well the Yamato needs large ports with naval support to fully rearm so you can figure out where she will be unless there is the very large AKE available.
Those IJN DDs would be vulnerable to Avengers on Low Naval with four 500 pound bombs so that is an option to try for a turn or two while the Yamato is gone and rearming.
As far as Vihn IJN bombardments go, mines laid in the coastal waters might help to slow that down plus a city attack dropping mines on the turns that they are expected to arrive and/or depart their home port could cause some problems as well. While those mines would be detected that turn, they should still have their chance at damaging some ships.
Since it would be difficult for your opponent to haul fuel and/or oil out of the DEI, can you try to shift some naval operations away from that theater so he won't be able to utilize the DEI's fuel and instead use fuel from the Home Islands area? Also, maybe some more submarine operations past the Kuriles to impede the flow of oil to Honshu?
A very nice job in Indochina and all of Southeast Asia. Are you building large stockpile of supplies to force feed the Chinese as soon as possible? Then they could put some pressure on those Japanese units in the Chungking area.
Those IJN DDs would be vulnerable to Avengers on Low Naval with four 500 pound bombs so that is an option to try for a turn or two while the Yamato is gone and rearming.
As far as Vihn IJN bombardments go, mines laid in the coastal waters might help to slow that down plus a city attack dropping mines on the turns that they are expected to arrive and/or depart their home port could cause some problems as well. While those mines would be detected that turn, they should still have their chance at damaging some ships.
Since it would be difficult for your opponent to haul fuel and/or oil out of the DEI, can you try to shift some naval operations away from that theater so he won't be able to utilize the DEI's fuel and instead use fuel from the Home Islands area? Also, maybe some more submarine operations past the Kuriles to impede the flow of oil to Honshu?
A very nice job in Indochina and all of Southeast Asia. Are you building large stockpile of supplies to force feed the Chinese as soon as possible? Then they could put some pressure on those Japanese units in the Chungking area.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
I thought one of the updates to the stock game changed the AE/AKE requirement so that you could combine the capacity of multiple AKEs to reach the rearm size needed for the Yamatos?RangerJoe wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:29 pm Well the Yamato needs large ports with naval support to fully rearm so you can figure out where she will be unless there is the very large AKE available.
I did not agree with that change but the IJ players made the case that the Yamatos were almost useless without it, or the addition of multiple large AKE conversions to support them.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
There are the large 4900 ton AKEs available to the Japanese. One comes in if they build it while conversions can be made.BBfanboy wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:45 pmI thought one of the updates to the stock game changed the AE/AKE requirement so that you could combine the capacity of multiple AKEs to reach the rearm size needed for the Yamatos?RangerJoe wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:29 pm Well the Yamato needs large ports with naval support to fully rearm so you can figure out where she will be unless there is the very large AKE available.
I did not agree with that change but the IJ players made the case that the Yamatos were almost useless without it, or the addition of multiple large AKE conversions to support them.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”


Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Aug 26, 1943
Here I try a very high escort with bombers at 10k....they coordinate nicely and seem to get good results. Destroying IJN destroyers is a day 1 high priority. That is a "Tokyo Express" destroyer, Fubuki class from WW1.
Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 9
A6M8 Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 26
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 16
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
P-38G Lightning x 16
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuyuki, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CMc Ma 1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CMc Toshima, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IV Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (8 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
78th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (5 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (10 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
Unyo-1 with A6M5c Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Here I try a very high escort with bombers at 10k....they coordinate nicely and seem to get good results. Destroying IJN destroyers is a day 1 high priority. That is a "Tokyo Express" destroyer, Fubuki class from WW1.
Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 9
A6M8 Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 26
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 16
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
P-38G Lightning x 16
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuyuki, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CMc Ma 1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CMc Toshima, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IV Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
202 Ku S-1 Det B with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (8 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
78th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (5 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (10 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
Unyo-1 with A6M5c Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Last edited by Lowpe on Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Vinh under attack....
Ground combat at Vinh (65,59)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 27209 troops, 199 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 714
Defending force 8133 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 365
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 393
Allied adjusted defense: 277
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1135 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Division
56th Infantry Brigade
32nd Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
111th LRP Brigade
8th New Chinese Corps
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
99th Indian Bde /1
85th British AT Rgt /1
Ground combat at Vinh (65,59)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 27209 troops, 199 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 714
Defending force 8133 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 365
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 393
Allied adjusted defense: 277
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1135 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Division
56th Infantry Brigade
32nd Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
111th LRP Brigade
8th New Chinese Corps
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
99th Indian Bde /1
85th British AT Rgt /1
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
This fraction gets destroyed in Indochina....the 4th Guards Div primary unit just retreated yesterday with reported heavy losses in the Rangoon pocket. Now the race is on to get the tanks to Vinh!
Ground combat at 60,68 (near Kompong Chhnang)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 1050 troops, 0 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 104
Defending force 126 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9
Allied adjusted assault: 142
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 142 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st Army Tank Regiment
Defending units:
4th Guards Div /1

Ground combat at 60,68 (near Kompong Chhnang)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 1050 troops, 0 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 104
Defending force 126 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9
Allied adjusted assault: 142
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 142 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st Army Tank Regiment
Defending units:
4th Guards Div /1
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Dark days indeed for the IJA in Burma...Burma always seems to be one big trap.
Last edited by Lowpe on Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Really not much good news for Japan....
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Well, it have been an amazing fight in China...made some rookie mistakes but overall they did a great job. British forces (artillery, LRPS, and Africans) did stellar work. Not worth sending armored units here though given how the combat works.
There is no reason whatsoever for the Allies to concede China without a bitter fight.
There is no reason whatsoever for the Allies to concede China without a bitter fight.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
That is looking good for you.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”


Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Aug 27, 1943
Detach several smallish squadrons in an attempt to intercept the IJN CL SAG at Saigon...three of our forces make contact plus some subs and even assault bombers:
Detach several smallish squadrons in an attempt to intercept the IJN CL SAG at Saigon...three of our forces make contact plus some subs and even assault bombers:
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Our first DESRON goes in....conditions favor us. Like most destroyer skirmishes damage is very light....
Night Time Surface Combat, near Saigon at 61,73, Range 7,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyonami
DD Harusame, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oite
DD Numakaze
DD Urukaze
Allied Ships
DD Kalk
DD McCook
DD Frankford, Shell hits 1
DD Cummings
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Night Time Surface Combat, near Saigon at 61,73, Range 7,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyonami
DD Harusame, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oite
DD Numakaze
DD Urukaze
Allied Ships
DD Kalk
DD McCook
DD Frankford, Shell hits 1
DD Cummings
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Last edited by Lowpe on Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
A second squadron races into the action:
Night Time Surface Combat, near Saigon at 61,73, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyonami, Shell hits 2
DD Harusame, on fire
DD Oite
DD Numakaze
DD Urukaze
Allied Ships
CL Leander, Shell hits 2
CL Tromp
DD Wilson, Shell hits 1
DD Dewey
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 9,000 yards
Night Time Surface Combat, near Saigon at 61,73, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyonami, Shell hits 2
DD Harusame, on fire
DD Oite
DD Numakaze
DD Urukaze
Allied Ships
CL Leander, Shell hits 2
CL Tromp
DD Wilson, Shell hits 1
DD Dewey
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 9,000 yards
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Fletcher squadron for the cleanup....plus some assault bombers show up....and scratch three enemy destroyers. Bennett will need some repairs, but we are flooding the area with ADs and ARs and the ARDs are arriving (slowly).
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Japan really wants Chungking....
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Burma....the destruction of the 4th Guards Division continues.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Rangoon liberated today!
Only Pegu left for the Burma road to open back up.
100k IJA troopers there and 52 fighters.
Only Pegu left for the Burma road to open back up.
