Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!!
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SBD-3 Dauntless sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 179,118 near Kona , Speed 9 , Moving Northwest
PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: 7 Japanese ships at 189,123 near Hilo , Speed 15 , Moving East
Hmmmmmmm take a look at this.
The first sighting is from Enterprise and is the three ships I sunk today.
But that 2nd sighting is now EAST of Pearl and 7 ships moving at 15 knots maybe this hunt is not over yet.....he may have fled deeper into the Eastern pacific
PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: 7 Japanese ships at 189,123 near Hilo , Speed 15 , Moving East
Hmmmmmmm take a look at this.
The first sighting is from Enterprise and is the three ships I sunk today.
But that 2nd sighting is now EAST of Pearl and 7 ships moving at 15 knots maybe this hunt is not over yet.....he may have fled deeper into the Eastern pacific
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OK this may help
The Blue Cross is the approx location of Enterprise and Hornet
The Red cross nearest is where todays action took place.
The 2nd red cross is a PBY High Point 5 spotting 7 Japanese ships heading east....
the games is still afoot !!!

The Blue Cross is the approx location of Enterprise and Hornet
The Red cross nearest is where todays action took place.
The 2nd red cross is a PBY High Point 5 spotting 7 Japanese ships heading east....
the games is still afoot !!!

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 08, 42
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Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 26
P-40E Warhawk x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 12 destroyed
CAP engaged:
AVG/1st Sqn with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
AVG/2nd Sqn with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 16 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
I see you get the same interesting results as other players. What kill rate was that? With the combat report completely understating the actual losses, this looks like a 20+:1 (or 2?) for the Tojos A2A. While I´m the wrong person to bring up that point (which happens all the time), as a dev team member, how is the air team lead explaining this to you? Those loops are off guys, especially when I see that the Tojos were 2:1 outnumbered. I´m a JFB but such results are just a pain to see actually. And I´ve got a hundred of those examples in my AAR and people doing AARs with the actual combat reports just show the same all the time. Going with the air team leader, we´re all bad players then. [:(]
Sweep and dive...
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Not really I think I shot down about 20+ of them wont be sure until I see the turn.
The Combat replay is miseading as the sweeper always looks like they lost none
sorry for spamming your AAR, but if the combat report says 1 lost for the sweeper and 16 lost for the defender and you get 20 of the sweeper shot down in the end then you are 100% having a different game than the rest of us. The game extremely underrates the losses for both sides and sweeps seem not to show damaged ac.
example (that´s all from one day), note that three Oscars were shot down A2A during the replay, one seems to have crashed due to damage afterwards.
Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-40B Warhawk x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10
Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 26
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 19
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 1st South India Base Force, at 56,48
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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gotta love the realism...

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26 lost for 8 tojos was the ratio
In the south of PH things are hooting up I gambled he would circle back to Line Islands for fuel and I think he has.
I think he is ESE of Palmyra maybe 800 miles from Christmas Island my carriers are inside him I hope to force an engagement if I can find the main body
In the south of PH things are hooting up I gambled he would circle back to Line Islands for fuel and I think he has.
I think he is ESE of Palmyra maybe 800 miles from Christmas Island my carriers are inside him I hope to force an engagement if I can find the main body
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Problem not with the sweeps, problem with very hight altitude sweeps. They are definitly unrealistic, if those Oscars sweepted in 15 000 - 20 000 they will be eaten by the CAP. You need to discuss with your opponent this problem. In my pbem game nor I nor my opponents use such unrealistic sweeps and we dont have unrealistic results.
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
26 lost for 8 tojos was the ratio
In the south of PH things are hooting up I gambled he would circle back to Line Islands for fuel and I think he has.
I think he is ESE of Palmyra maybe 800 miles from Christmas Island my carriers are inside him I hope to force an engagement if I can find the main body
Whenever I get swept by high altitude tojos, I just get murdered. I have not found any solution. High sweep death plus the uber tojo makes for an unreal deadly combo. These planes are the corsairs of AE and are totally whacked. It does not help that so many can be built in lieu of tonys. They totally change the nature of the game-giving the Japanese player fighter air superiority until well into 1943.
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Cest la vie vengeance will be mine later.
My army is almost ready to re invade Burma last few units are arrivin 32nd US Div most of 1st Marine Div and 2nd Brit Div this is going to be a massive attack
My army is almost ready to re invade Burma last few units are arrivin 32nd US Div most of 1st Marine Div and 2nd Brit Div this is going to be a massive attack
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I am tempted to go the whole hog and land at Moulmein and bypass the whole of North Burma
Cat and mouse continues in the south pacific
Cat and mouse continues in the south pacific
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If he has AIR HQ at Rangoon, he can in one day transfer Betty or Nell from 70 hex range and attack your invasion force, so you need to bring some carriers.
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OK PZB is back from holiday and after the carrier battle I have been trying to find the remnants of the jap fleet but no joy so I am returning to base.
We are about 30 - 40 days from the start of the allied counter offensive which has 3 operations planned to hit him all at the same time.
We are about 30 - 40 days from the start of the allied counter offensive which has 3 operations planned to hit him all at the same time.
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ps Hiyo is confirmed sunk so that a big CVL and CV confirmed sunk
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Operation 1 is the post monsoon attack on Burma its well telegtaphed so he will be ready for it but I want him to be pulling troops into Burma in 42 so I am willing for this attack to end in stalemate if it make him commit.
Operation 2 is the reconquest of NE Australia this will kick off when the Armour is redeployed from Darwin in about 30 days and will be a large scale ground offensive.
Operation 3 is the reconquest of Christmas and the Line Islands supported by the combined RN/USN fleet that is currently redeploying.
My strategic goal for 42 from 1 is to make him commit to Burma at the expense of Sumatra/Java/Malaya - you can see the way my mind is heading ;P
2. is to get a platform for the NG campaign to follow
3. is to open up my SLOC and try and get KB to commit
I am carefully husbanding forces to get ready for these operations
Andy

Operation 1 is the post monsoon attack on Burma its well telegtaphed so he will be ready for it but I want him to be pulling troops into Burma in 42 so I am willing for this attack to end in stalemate if it make him commit.
Operation 2 is the reconquest of NE Australia this will kick off when the Armour is redeployed from Darwin in about 30 days and will be a large scale ground offensive.
Operation 3 is the reconquest of Christmas and the Line Islands supported by the combined RN/USN fleet that is currently redeploying.
My strategic goal for 42 from 1 is to make him commit to Burma at the expense of Sumatra/Java/Malaya - you can see the way my mind is heading ;P
2. is to get a platform for the NG campaign to follow
3. is to open up my SLOC and try and get KB to commit
I am carefully husbanding forces to get ready for these operations
Andy
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Re 2. I have over 700 Tanks and 100 Armoured Cars supporting 4 US and 5 Australian Divs plus change....
So this attack is well organised and I can force a single retreat my armour will crucify the Japanese I very much doubt PZB can stop me I only hope he doesnt take a strategic step back before I am ready to attack the last few pieces of the puzzle are moving now
So this attack is well organised and I can force a single retreat my armour will crucify the Japanese I very much doubt PZB can stop me I only hope he doesnt take a strategic step back before I am ready to attack the last few pieces of the puzzle are moving now
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For the Burma offensive I am going for multiple objectives initially at least
66th Chinese Army at Paoshan will drive on Lashio
5th Chinese Army will drive on Katha from Myktina
Burma Corps will drive from Imphal to Schwebo where it will try to link up with the Chinese.
IV Corps will cross the mountains driving for Magwe with all the Chindits under command
XV Corps will take the coastal road driving straight for Prome with most of my Indian theatre Armour.
XXXIII Corps in reserve will await PP's to free up more units to reinforce success
I may be dispersing my efforts a little to much but it should confuse the hell out of PZB !!!
66th Chinese Army at Paoshan will drive on Lashio
5th Chinese Army will drive on Katha from Myktina
Burma Corps will drive from Imphal to Schwebo where it will try to link up with the Chinese.
IV Corps will cross the mountains driving for Magwe with all the Chindits under command
XV Corps will take the coastal road driving straight for Prome with most of my Indian theatre Armour.
XXXIII Corps in reserve will await PP's to free up more units to reinforce success
I may be dispersing my efforts a little to much but it should confuse the hell out of PZB !!!
Dum de Dum
And so it begins.....
Burma Corps is ordered out of its rain sodden bunks at Imphal and ordered to cross the Chindwin in force under command 17th Indian Div (Animal Pack) 39th Indian Div and one other Div.
The Corps is ordered to link up at Katha with the Chinese 5th Army.
This is the first move in the Northern Offensive.
In the South the redeployment from Western Australia is nearly complete both of my strike Corps and the Militia Corps are almost ready to attack the Japanese lines.
I estimate both attacks will be under way within a week
Burma Corps is ordered out of its rain sodden bunks at Imphal and ordered to cross the Chindwin in force under command 17th Indian Div (Animal Pack) 39th Indian Div and one other Div.
The Corps is ordered to link up at Katha with the Chinese 5th Army.
This is the first move in the Northern Offensive.
In the South the redeployment from Western Australia is nearly complete both of my strike Corps and the Militia Corps are almost ready to attack the Japanese lines.
I estimate both attacks will be under way within a week
RE: Dum de Dum
XXXIII Corps is in reserve in India with my Amphib Assault force ready for an opening !!!


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RE: Dum de Dum
And so it begins I have 4 major offensives all kicking off now.
1. General Slim's Burma Offensive as outlined above.
2. Chiang's counteroffensive in central China.
3. General MacArthurs two pronged attack on West Australia its time to kick back and take them out !!!
1. General Slim's Burma Offensive as outlined above.
2. Chiang's counteroffensive in central China.
3. General MacArthurs two pronged attack on West Australia its time to kick back and take them out !!!
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4. Nimitz CENTPAC offensive is nearing readiness as well
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Illustrious is about 40 days from readiness
Formidable is about 15 days away from Pearl
4 USN CV's and 2 USN CVE's are either at Pearl or approaching.
Naval assets are congregating at Pearl
Land forces on the Brisbane line
Formidable is about 15 days away from Pearl
4 USN CV's and 2 USN CVE's are either at Pearl or approaching.
Naval assets are congregating at Pearl
Land forces on the Brisbane line