Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[stilesw]

All models of the Tu-16P Badger L are labeled as a Jammer but aircraft type is Recon and the only loadout available is ELINT. Since its an upgraded Badger J, I think the type should be Electronic Warfare and the loadout Offensive ECM.

Brandon,

ELINT is the only loadout for these aircraft however, they do have OECM/DECM capability through onboard sensors as shown below which do not show up as loadouts.

Good idea to change the type to "Electronic Warfare" and comment field to "Offensive ECM/Jammer".

-WS

[stilesw]

The following Nimitz carriers should have a new variant with the 171mm CAT TT mount and sensors removed.

Logged for removal on Nimitz class 2020+.
-WS

[Gunner98]

On the DB entry #147 for TAKR Admiral Kuznetsov

The carrier magazine holds:
AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR SARH] (#1901)
AA-10 Alamo C [R-27ER, LR SARH] (#1899)

But the only Flanker capable of Carrier operations is #57 - Su-33 Flanker D (Russia[1992] - 1995) which cannot fire these munitions. It uses:
AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR TSARH] (#3585)
AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR TSARH] (#3585)

So I think that the magazines for the carrier need to be updated (the TSARH existed as far back as 87), but the munition for the aircraft seems a bit odd with two entries for the same missile with DB numbers offset by only '1'. It may be that the second one (for 2 missiles) should be for: AA-10 Alamo C [R-27ER, LR TSARH] #3586.

I don't have a specific reference but popping around it seems the Su-33 could fire the whole suite of R-27 types

B

[stilesw]

On the DB entry #147 for TAKR Admiral Kuznetsov...carrier magazine holds:

Bart,

Thanks for the catch. Logged to update magazines from AA-10 SARH to AA-10 TSARH.

-WS

[orca]

ORIGINAL: orca

There are issues with the FREMM-based FFG(X) which was posted in the Command Modern Operations v1.01 update - Build 1146.1 forum. But I wanted to put it here

Here are my suggestions for the units: If there are any suggested corrections or anything I left out please respond. One particular question I have is whether it will have a hull mounted sonar and if yes or likely yes, which type.

FREMM-based FFG(X)

Displacement: 7500 tons

Sensors:
3x EASR
2x SLQ-32(V)6
AN/SQS-62 VDS
AN/SQR-19B(V)2 TACTAS
ESM- unknown type, suggest use generic adv ESM (2020s)
AN-SPS-73(V)18 NGSSR (next generation surface radar)- updated version of similar named currently in DB
EO/IR- unknown type, suggest highest capability equivalent system in DB, and/or keep SeaFLIR

Remove all of the following sensors currently on the unit: AN/SPG-62, AN/SPS-55, furono, MM/SPY-790 EMPAR, RAN-30X/I, MK1 mod 2 ROS, EOMS, EA-2118/AB, RESM, RECM, AN/SQS-62, AN/SQQ-89 (this is a ASW system, not a sonar), AN/SQS-62, UMS 4410CL, AN/SQS-63, Kingfisher, SNA-200, AN/UQQ-2 SURTASS, AN/SQQ-28, SNA-200/I acoustic intercept, AN/SLQ-32(V)5, NA-25, RTN-25x, SASS IRST

Mounts:
AN/SLQ-61 LWT
ADC Mk5 Torpedo countermeasure
32cell MK 41 (VL-ASROC, ESSM2, SM-2 Blk IIIC), no SM-3
2x324 Mk32 TT (Mk54 LHT default)
21 cell RAM
Mk110 57mm (with ALaMO ammunition- model AlaMO on 76mm Super Rapido Dart ammo)
2x 12.7mm MG
4x4 NSM

Remove all of the following mounts currently on the unit: 20mm/80 Oerlikon, 324mm TT twin (with MU-90), 76mm/62 OTO Melara, AN/SLQ-25A


Magazines:
Helicopter magazine -same as most modern Burke
Torpedo Magazine [internal tubes] – same as most modern Burke
Mk36 SRBOC
Mk53 Nukla
12.7mm MG

Remove MU-90 external tubes, 20mm/80

Coms/datalinks/other:
CEC
Link 11,22,16
HF, VHF, UHF, SATCOM
AEGIS command datalink
Tomahawk command datalink
Lamps III ship datalink


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFG(X)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... mpetition/

There are still issues with the FFGX. Please see my prior post and follow up comments/suggestions from Cheeckako.

-add VDS
-add surface search radar - updated version of AN-SPS-73 / NGSSR
-remove AN/SQQ-88 from sensors- this is an ASW combat system which it will have, but it's not a sonar. There should be no hull sonar
-add 2x AN/SLQ-32(6) ESM and ECM
-add generic advanced ESM (2020s)
-add some type of advanced IR/EO
-remove NA-25 and RTN-25- these were on the Italian version but will not be on the US version
-remove 76mm/62 Super Rapido
-add Mk110 57mm (with AlaMo ammunition)
-builder now showing models with 16 NSM (4x4), not 8x
-remove Dart/Davide datalink
-only have 1 AEGIS command datalink
-remove Skynet datalink and replace with US SATCOM
-also suggest defalut Mk41 to be SM-2 Blk IIC, ESSM2, and VLASROC, with other weapons loadable)
-possibly remove Mk32 torpedo tubes

[cdnice]

CORRECTED THANK YOU!

Minor note re RCN Asterix DB ID#3223

There are two pads with haul down listed but the ship can only land one helo at a time.

Thanks for the addition!!

[stilesw]

Minor note re RCN Asterix DB ID#3223 There are two pads with haul down listed but the ship can only land one helo at a time.

Logged.
-WS

[AceOfSpadeszzzzzz]

The internal label for the JATM missiles in JATM Standard Internal loadouts for all the F-22 variants(2022, 2023, 2024) seems to be missing and is actually affecting their RCS. I'm using DB3K v485.

[stilesw]

The internal label for the JATM missiles in JATM Standard Internal loadouts for all the F-22 variants(2022, 2023, 2024) seems to be missing and is actually affecting their RCS

Logged.
-WS

[14yellow14]

Information for the future Hunter class (Type 26) of Australia

[MaxDemian]

Hello,

I am looking at the SAM system on Type 054A frigate, designated as HQ-16A or HQ-16B. According to a CSIS report the actual designation of the weapon is HHQ-16 (source: CSIS report August 2015, Russia's Contribution to China's Surface Warfare Capabilities; Paul Schwartz).
Because this weapon is a BUK copy/derivative I think it is reasonable to assume that it retains anti-surface capability, like SA-N-7 Gadfly. The range in anti-surface mode would be limited by the how high the MR-90 Orekh illuminators are mounted on the ship, since the missile is SARH guided.ided.

[Primarchx]

Y-20U Kunpeng (DB #4975) has a boom refueling capability yet there are no PLAAF aircraft with boom receptacles. Strategypage reports that the Y-20 tanker variant was spotted with UPAZ-1M drogue refueling pods see https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htair ... 90402.aspx.

[stilesw]

Y-20U Kunpeng (DB #4975) has a boom refueling capability yet there are no PLAAF aircraft with boom receptacles. Strategypage reports that the Y-20 tanker variant was spotted with UPAZ-1M drogue refueling pods

Logged for update.
-WS

[RandolphSykes]

Pantsir's SA-22/57E6 missiles have a datalink for optical target-tracking of a single target. In CMO the missile only has a SARH seeker.

[TwarVG]

A couple of errors with the Land Ceptor [CAMM] (#3269).

The name should be changed to Sky Sabre [CAMM(L)]. Land Ceptor was never an official name.
The radar system should be a Giraffe AMB 3D similar to DB ID #1212, not the AN/MPQ-53.
There'll be 4 TELs per troop, not 8. This is the structure used by RA Rapier troops, with 3 troops comprising a battery.
Each TEL holds 12 missiles, not 1.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brit ... baltic-sea
https://www.army-technology.com/feature ... ce-system/

The missile itself, DB ID #3735, should have its range reduced to 15nmi in line with its maritime counterpart Sea Ceptor #2783.

Sea Ceptor #2783 should also have a surface attack capability.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... sea-ceptor

The UK should also have Giraffe AMB 3D #1212 radars available as standalone units for the British Army. They were introduced as part of the LEAPP program and are operated by 49 (Inkerman) Battery Royal Artillery.
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Br ... ard-04830/

[KLAB]

Plus it's command guided not SARH.
This applies to quite a few systems not just Pantsir.
Thanks
K

ORIGINAL: RandolphSykes

Pantsir's SA-22/57E6 missiles have a datalink for optical target-tracking of a single target. In CMO the missile only has a SARH seeker.

[miller7219]

Requesting the following US Sub Classes be added to DB3000 (CMANO and CMO):

SS 576 Darter (1956-1989)
APSS 574 Grayback (1958-1984)(Former SSG 574)
SSN 575 Seawolf (1957-1987)
SSN 578 Skate (1957-1989)
SSN 597 Tullibee (1960-1988)
SSN 671 Narwhal (1969-1999)
SSN 685 Glenard P. Lipscomb (1974-1990)
SSBN 598 George Washington (1959-1985)
SSN 599 Patrick Henry (George Washington Class)(1981-1984)
SSBN 608 Ethan Allen (1961-1981)
SSN 608 Ethan Allen (1980-1992)

Notes:

SSBN 599 Patrick Henry was the only George Washington class to be reclassified.

All 5 of of the Ethen Allen class boats were reclassified SSN in two batches, 1980 and 1981.

[Anzu]

The Finnish Army NH90 helicopters (DB3K #2354) can't transport any troops, as the only load-outs are for two types of cargo and SAR, no personell.
They are primarily used as tactical troop transports and MEDEVAC/CASEVAC.

They can also be armed with one or sometimes two M134D Miniguns as door guns.


I'm still not allowed to post direct links, but info is easily confirmed by googling NH90 + M134D + Finland

[Ekaton]

Thai Army's KS-1C reportedly has a range of 70 km, yet in the game, while sensors have a range of 60 nm, the same as older KS-1A used by Myanmar, mounts have a range of just 20 nm, again the same as KS-1A. I'm not an expert but thought I'd report that here.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... capability - here's one source mentioning the longer range of KS-1C.

[KLAB]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -1st-time/
1st test firing for Wildcat's LMM Martlet as an indicator of an in service date of circa late 2020 once testing is complete?
Admittedly I've only checked via the DB viewer app on my phone but the 2016 UK HMA.2 Wildcat seem to have Martlet, way too soon if May 24TH 2020 is the first test firing?
For consideration. Thanks
K