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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by Rory Noonan »

Hey guys,

We've put a few things in place to keep the pipeline from database request to production running smoothly; something that would assist greatly is you could use the following format when making a request.

Each request has 4 elements: Type, Summary, Detail, Evidence

Type: Either 'ADD' or 'UPDATE'. Add is for new entries, update is for existing entries.
Summary: A one sentence description of the request e.g. 'Hypothetical A-7F' or 'new fuel info for MiG-29'. It will be truncated at 70 characters so brevity is essential.
Detail: The body of your request, similar to what people have been posting up until now
Evidence: This is where all of your links and photos etc go, reference them as [1], [2], [3] etc in the Detail element and list them numerically in the Evidence element
---------------------EXAMPLE 1---------------------
<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Egyptian Romeo submarine has harpoon missiles</summary>
<detail>It seems that the Egyptian Romeo submarine has Harpoon missiles.. UGM-84L Harpoon Block II AShM
#245 - S 849 Romeo (Egypt - 1995)

During excercises this week a Harpoon was (un)succesfully launched. [1][2]

And one succesfull launch in 2019 [3]

It has no Harpoon yet in the Database. Upgraded in 1989-1996
</detail>
<evidence>
1: https://t.co/nwxEv8Kspi?amp=1
2: https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/stat ... 5775143947
3: https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/stat ... 0263914496
</evidence>
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---------------------EXAMPLE 2---------------------
<type>ADD</type>
<summary>A-7F Corsair II hypothetical platform</summary>
<detail>Could we get an entry for the A-7F Corsair II hypothetical platform please?

See this article from the Drive[1]

Doesn't give a lot of specifics but I think using DB 3028 (A-7K LANA) as the base, adding an after burning F100-220 engine, longer range and a few more modern weapons would do it.
</detail>
<evidence>1: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... ng-program
2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_YA-7F
3: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thread ... ojects.11/
4: https://www.airplanesofthepast.com/a7-corsair.htm
</evidence>
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Many will recognise that this is XML style formatting, except in this case capitalisation inside the tags doesn't matter: <ExAmPle> is just as valid as <example> or <EXAMPLE>, however the backslash in the closing tag (e.g. </example>) is important.

Only <type>, <summary>, <detail> and <evidence> tags will be recognised so there is no point in adding others [:)]

Note that this is not mandatory but as I said above, it will help us process these requests much faster. If you wish you can of course continue to make requests in the same manner it's been done up to now.

Thanks for your cooperation, and thank you for the time and effort taken to research these items. There's some exciting developments on the horizon for DB requests [:)]
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by IrvingMainway »

will give it a try and I guess make a template to try to maximize its usage with others

<type> </type>
<summary> </summary>
<detail> </detail>
<evidence> </evidence>

<type> UPDATE </type>
<summary> Long Range Air Search Radar upgrade for the ANZAC class FFG </summary>
<detail> The AN/SPS-49 sets are being replaced with CEAFAR2 which will also be used on the new Hunter class FFG. Also receiving upgrades to LESCUT and Nixie systems. </detail>
<evidence> https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... p-upgrade/ <evidence>

<type> ADD </type>
<summary> Hunter class FFG </summary>
<detail> New class based on the British Type 26 Frigate design which will begin replacing the Anzac class in the late 2020s. </detail>
<evidence> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-class_frigate
https://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boa ... future/ffg </evidence>

<type> ADD </type>
<summary> Guided 57mm ammunition for MK 110 CIGS </summary>
<detail> BAE as well as L3 Mustang and Raytheon have developed guided munitions similar to the Italian 76mm STRALES to be fired from the Mk 110 57mm CIGS. The L3 solution has been ordered as the Mk 332 Mod 0 </detail>
<evidence> https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -lcs-ffgx/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... s-ffg.html
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/0 ... 559049733/
https://www.defensedaily.com/bae-announ ... navy-usmc/
</evidence>
UncertainlyCertain
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by UncertainlyCertain »

Hello, I would like to request and update the following Gripen's sensors and weapons - Can't post links so take reference from images



<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>PS-05/A mk.3 on JAS 39 A/B/C/D</summary>
<detail>According to SAAB the PS-05/A is capable of LPI, NCTR, and ground search (Fixed, Mobile). Currently in game the PS-05/A (sensor ID 664) lacks said features</detail>
<evidence>1a
2a</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>PS-05/A mk.4 for Batch 3 JAS 39 C/D starting 2016</summary>
<detail>Scheduled to replace PS-05/A mk.3 on JAS 39 C/D probably starting 2016. Cited as having 150% increase in range against air targets and 100% increase in range against surface targets. Better ECCM.</detail>
<evidence>1b
2b
3b</evidence>

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>PS-05/A Mk4 AESA [ES-05 Raven] (sensor ID 5074) not performing as expected</summary>
<detail>The PS-05/A (a.k.a. Raven) in game (sensor ID 5074) airborne target detection and instrumented max range is on par with that of the PS-05/A (sensor ID 664), however (in game) it does have better ECCM capabilities and is LPI unlike the latter. The Raven is supposed to be a GaN AESA based on the Vixen AESA</detail>
<evidence>1c
2c
3c</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Elisra PAWS-2</summary>
<detail>Elisra will supply the Gripen NG with it's new PAWS. Affected platforms IDs #5004, #3201, #3367, #5003</detail>
<evidence>1d
2d
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Possibly add ESTL DECM/DIRCM pod for JAS 39 C/D/E/F starting 2014</summary>
<detail>Basically an AIM-9 sized pod installed on a pylon in place of a missile.</detail>
<evidence>1e
2e
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>RB 15F mk.3 for the Gripen NG</summary>
<detail>The RB 15F mk3 (database ID 283) is currently not tied with any loadout. It's stated to be introduced into the Swedish Armed Forces 2020/2021</detail>
<evidence> 1f</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Arexis EW pod for Gripen NG past 2020, maybe as hypothetical</summary>
<detail>Please add the Arexis pod as (hypothetical?) loadout to the Gripen NG (probably dual seater F version DB ID #3367 and #5003). It's an EW pod with the purpose of turning the Gripen into a mini-Growler</detail>
<evidence>1g</evidence>


I don't know where to post the following, is this thread appropriate?

Loadout Problem

#5004 JAS 39E Gripen NG (Brazil - 2021), JAS 39E Gripen NG (Sweden - 2019) #3201, JAS 39F Gripen NG (Sweden - 2019) #3367, JAS 39F Gripen NG (Brazil - 2021) #5003

Loadout #18336 A/A: Meteor, Medium Intercept (Air Superiority, BVR AAMs) with 4x RB 107 Meteor | 2x RB 98 IRIS-T | 3x 1275 l Drop Tank

At cruise throttle and 36k ft the aircraft has a 50.4 kg/min fuel burn rate reducing the air time to just over 2h (if spawned mid air).
After shooting away 2 RB 107 it's fuel burn rate goes down to 38.4 kg/min

Note that in this state it's loadout is identical to:
Loadout #17127 A/A: Meteor, Standard Intercept (Air Superiority, BVR AAMs) with 2x RB 107 | 2x RB 98 | 3x 1275 l Drop Tank, however the fuel burn rate in this case is 31.6 kg/min.

Also the dual seater B/D length is displayed incorrectly in the database as 14.1m, should be 14.8m. The F version should be 15.9m instead of 15.2m. Size does affect aircraft RCS values right?


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Broncepulido
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by Broncepulido »

Some news the last months on this issue.

USS Roosevelt DDG-80 (Arleigh Burke Flight IIA) has replaced in Rota USS Carney DDG-64 (Flight I), and as the other BMD destroyers  there deployed, has replaced her aft Phalanx mount with a SeaRAM missile mount (at least from March 2020), but not mentioned this time in any news report. But you can see here clearly the SeaRAM mount, Apparently is the first Flight IIA with a SeaRAM mount:

https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/uss-ro ... t-to-spain

https://www.navy.mil/view_imagex.asp?id=316851&t=1

Another three DDGs have or are scheduled to have SeaRAM installed besides the original Rota four. From the FY20 budget papers:

“ Installations include the Rota DDG SeaRAM installs on DDGs 51,64,71,75,78,79,80 and 84”

From here, in the comments:

https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/uss-ro ... t-to-spain

And also 5"/62 Mk45 Mod 4 replacing the previous 5"/54 gun (see the flat panels new turret).

In short:
<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Arleigh Burke Flight IIA with aft SeaRAM mount replacing aft Phalanx mount. And also 5"/62 Mk45 Mod 4 replacing the previous 5"/54 gun</summary>
<detail>USS Roosevelt DDG-80 (Arleigh Burke Flight IIA), and as the other BMD destroyers  there deployed, has replaced her aft Phalanx mount with a SeaRAM missile mount (at least from March 2020), but not mentioned this time in any news report. And also 5"/62 Mk45 Mod 4 replacing the previous 5"/54 gun. Apparently is the first Flight IIA with a SeaRAM mount. Installations include the Rota DDG SeaRAM installs on DDGs 51,64,71,75,78,79,80 and 84 on or previously to FY2020 </detail>
<evidence> https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/uss-ro ... t-to-spain

https://www.navy.mil/view_imagex.asp?id ... </evidence>
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by IrvingMainway »

<type> ADD </type>
<summary> CF-18A AN/APG-79 AESA Radar </summary>
<detail> 36 CF-18A/Bs (including ex-RAAF aircraft) will be fitted with APG-79 as well as AIM-9X Block 2 and ADM-141C ITALD </detail>
<evidence> https://www.defensenews.com/global/the- ... okd-by-us/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... s-and-more </evidence>
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by Rory Noonan »

So far this is working excellently on our end, thanks very much guys [:)]
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by Rory Noonan »

ORIGINAL: UncertainlyCertain

I don't know where to post the following, is this thread appropriate?

Loadout Problem

#5004 JAS 39E Gripen NG (Brazil - 2021), JAS 39E Gripen NG (Sweden - 2019) #3201, JAS 39F Gripen NG (Sweden - 2019) #3367, JAS 39F Gripen NG (Brazil - 2021) #5003

Loadout #18336 A/A: Meteor, Medium Intercept (Air Superiority, BVR AAMs) with 4x RB 107 Meteor | 2x RB 98 IRIS-T | 3x 1275 l Drop Tank

At cruise throttle and 36k ft the aircraft has a 50.4 kg/min fuel burn rate reducing the air time to just over 2h (if spawned mid air).
After shooting away 2 RB 107 it's fuel burn rate goes down to 38.4 kg/min

Note that in this state it's loadout is identical to:
Loadout #17127 A/A: Meteor, Standard Intercept (Air Superiority, BVR AAMs) with 2x RB 107 | 2x RB 98 | 3x 1275 l Drop Tank, however the fuel burn rate in this case is 31.6 kg/min.

Also the dual seater B/D length is displayed incorrectly in the database as 14.1m, should be 14.8m. The F version should be 15.9m instead of 15.2m. Size does affect aircraft RCS values right?


This is indeed the place to post that; thank you. I'll add it to the list.
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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<type> ADD </type>
<summary> HH-53B, HH-53C and HH/MH-53H 1975-88</summary>
<detail> The HH-53 Super Jolly was in service prior to 1975 until converted to PAVE Low III (MH-53J) standard starting 1988. HH-53B/C generally similar to CH-53C with the addition of a refueling probe. HH/MH-53H was the initial set of 8 PAVE Low II conversions in the late 70s.</detail>
<evidence> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_MH-53 </evidence>
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by gennyo »

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>DF-41 Classified as HGV in 486</summary>
<detail>DK3k 486 classified DF-41 MIRV (#3456) as HGV missiles and prompt me that I can only use those in Pro Version.
As my antagonist only have this in my scenario, which is build under 483 and updated to 486, they can't have a chance to use them.
DF-31 works as before, so maybe this is only isolated problem but I think it worth a check of those ICBMs.
Or maybe let us play with HGVs?[:D]
</detail>
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by Rain08 »

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>What is the SM-2's actual range?</summary>
<detail>I just noticed in the latest update that the ranges for the SM-2s were reduced.
DB477 (2019-01-01):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi

DB478 (2019-05-07):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-50 nmi

DB479 (2019-10-10):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-90 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-90 nmi

DB483 (2020-03-11):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-90 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-90 nmi

DB486 (2020-07-13):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-70 nmi

Now I'm curious as to what is the missile's actual range against air targets? It seems to fluctuate between the DBs - something I've never noticed for a weapon entry before.

Also since the Blk IIIC is an ARH missile, maybe it should have the same anti-surface range as the anti-air range. It currently has the 25 nmi range against surface targets (within horizon only). It also contains multiple datalinks when it should only have one (bolded).

AEGIS Missile Datalink [One-Way]
AEGIS Command Datalink [AN/SPY-6, Two-Way]
AEGIS Missile Datalink [Two-Way]

</detail>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by 14yellow14 »

ORIGINAL: Rain08

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>What is the SM-2's actual range?</summary>
<detail>I just noticed in the latest update that the ranges for the SM-2s were reduced.
DB477 (2019-01-01):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi

DB478 (2019-05-07):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-50 nmi

DB479 (2019-10-10):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-90 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-90 nmi

DB483 (2020-03-11):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-90 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-90 nmi

DB486 (2020-07-13):
#1194 - RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB - 2-50 nmi
#3536 - RIM-66M-6 SM-2MR Blk IIIC - 2-70 nmi

Now I'm curious as to what is the missile's actual range against air targets? It seems to fluctuate between the DBs - something I've never noticed for a weapon entry before.

Also since the Blk IIIC is an ARH missile, maybe it should have the same anti-surface range as the anti-air range. It currently has the 25 nmi range against surface targets (within horizon only). It also contains multiple datalinks when it should only have one (bolded).

AEGIS Missile Datalink [One-Way]
AEGIS Command Datalink [AN/SPY-6, Two-Way]
AEGIS Missile Datalink [Two-Way]

</detail>



According to the US Navy website...

https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_disp ... =1200&ct=2

General Characteristics, SM-2 Block III/IIIA/IIIB Medium Range
Surface to air missile.

Range: Up to 90 nautical miles (104 statute miles).
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Australian P-8 Poseidon has Harpoon II missiles </summary>
<detail>Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft fired its first ATM-84J Harpoon medium-range anti-ship/land-attack missile in 2018 </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.airforce.gov.au/technology/ ... a-poseidon
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/marit ... rst-strike
https://thediplomat.com/2018/07/austral ... n-missile/ </evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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Update on GlobalEye sensors and comms

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>GlobalEye (aircraft ID 4999) sensor suite and comms</summary>
<detail>The GlobalEye generic IRST (sensor ID 4596) should be replaced with the Star Safire 380 suite (CCD sensor ID 5620, FLIR sensor ID 5618, Laser Des. sensor ID 5619). The GlobalEye also mounts the MSWS defence suite: MAW-300 (sensor ID 4395), LWS-300 (sensor ID 4396), RWS-300 (sensor ID 4394) and BOP-L chaff and flare dispenser. It is also equipped with Link 11/16/22 and SATCOM.</detail>
<evidence>1a
2a
3a </evidence>

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>SeaSpray 7500E ground capability</summary>
<detail>According to Leonardo (the manufacturer), the SeaSpray 7500E has ground mapping and Ground Moving Target Indication capabilities</detail>
<evidence>1b</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Iranian SA-15/ TOR-M2 is in fact a SA-15B /TOR-M1 </summary>
<detail>#481 - SAM Plt (SA-15d Gauntlet [9K330 Tor-M2E]) (Iran - 2008) is not present in Iran. This is primarily visible at the searchradar. See evidence. The deal was made in 2005-2007 where the SA-15D was not yet present. Can be changed in #435 - SAM PLt (SA-15b Gauntlet [9K330 Tor-M1K) (Russia [1992-] 1993) </detail>
<evidence>https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/revealed ... 399/page-4
https://defencedog.blogspot.com/2012/03 ... ities.html
https://en.topwar.ru/116150-pvo-islamsk ... ast-3.html
https://t-intell.com/2020/01/10/iranian ... </evidence>>

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<type>ADD</type>

<summary>Please add the Doha-class Corvette</summary>

<detail> Qatar’s 1st Air Defense Corvette “Al Zubarah”


The vessel, which will be delivered in 2021, is designed consistent with the RINAMIL rules. She will be a flexible type of ship capable of fulfilling a range of tasks, from surveillance with sea rescue capabilities to being a fighting vessel, being about 107 meters long, 14.70 meters wide, with a maximum speed of 28 knots. The unit will be provided with a combined diesel and diesel plant (CODAD) and will be able to accommodate 112 persons on board.

Furthermore, the vessel will be capable of operating high-speed boats such as RHIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) through lateral cranes or a hauling ramp located at the far stern. The flight deck and hangar will be sized for hosting one NH90 helicopter.

The Doha-class corvettes will primary serve for air defense missions and therefore will have a very substantial firepower for their size. They will be fitted with:

16 Aster 30 Block 1NT surface-to-air missiles by MBDA,
8 Exocet MM40 Block 3 anti-ship missiles by MBDA,
a 76mm main gun and 2 Marlins remote weapons stations by Leonardo,
torpedo tubes
a RAM launcher (21 missiles) by Raytheon
4 Sylena Mk2 decoy launchers by Lacroix

It has to be noted that the Aster 30 Block 1NT can intercept ballistic missiles up to a distance of 600 kilometers. With this BMD capacity, Qatar aims to protect its strategic maritime infrastructure such as the offshore oil and gas fields from the Iranian threat. The Doha-class corvettes will be the first ships to ever get this missile system.

Leonardo is responsible for the integrated supply of the new naval units’ combat system (Athena), main radar system (Kronos) and on-board sensors and defence sub-systems, including the anti-torpedo protection system and the Thesan mine avoidance sonar.

The Aster will be guided by the Kronos radar. Because of the relatively small size of the corvettes, early warning / long-range threat detection missions will be taken care of by shore-based radars as well as a larger, L band radar fitted aboard the air defense LPD also procured by Qatar as part of the gobal contract with Fincantieri.</detail>

<evidence> https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... l-zubarah/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/1 ... el-mash-up </evidence>


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ADD

Please consider adding smaller precision guided munition to Chinese aircrafts.

Chinese air force does have smaller LS-6 variants (50kg, 100kg etc.) for their multirole aircrafts. They are shown on the Zhuhai Air Show 2012.
I noticed that LS-6-50 variant is already in game and is used by Zambia air force with Chinese originated trainer/light attacker L-15. So I am PERSUMING that Chinese aircrafts can carry such bombs as well.
Besides, FT-7 (which is already a loadout of CH-5 UAV) should be available to every Chinese 3rd gen aircraft lineup.
Furthermore, we can merge all Russian air to ground weapons to Chinese Sukhoi lineup, including J-15/J-16. Since dear community added [COPY] tag to every Chinese Sukhoi-like aircraft, I am again PERSUMING that there is some backward compatibility in it.

Back to the topic.

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This is the 100kg variant of LS-6. It should have ~50 dp in game.

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This is a J-16 dispensing the aforementioned bomb. Note the 6* multirack under the wing, each J-16 should be able to carry 24 of such bomb, and its strike radius should be similar to
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Anti-Torpedo Torpedo pok should be reduced. </summary>
<detail>The current American Anti-Torpedo Torpedo #3092 has been correctly removed but for years it was in service has a very high pok (85%) in DB. This should be reduced significantly as the program so far is failure (so maybe 5-10%) </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... ercarriers
</evidence>
Don't call it a comeback...
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Post by Parel803 »

Possible addition to DB: Datum symbol
Not shore if this is possible or feasable but I'm gonna suggest it. Maybe it the line of markers?
From open source APP7(B)/MPP-7(B) Brevity words:
DATUM Last known position of a submarine or a suspected submarine after contact has been lost.
https://docplayer.net/39934042-App-7-b- ... ation.html

From open source AAP-6(C) the Nato symbols, page 7.95
https://www.awl.edu.pl/images/en/APP_6_C.pdf

If it is already in there, sorry didn't found it. If it's rubbish than disregard.
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UncertainlyCertain
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues?

Post by UncertainlyCertain »

To Parel803

AFAIK such feature is already present: whenever a submarine attack is spotted (say torpedo launch transient or submarine missile launch detected on radar/visually) a "goblin" unknown contact is added for your side in the approximate location of the enemy submarine as "flaming datum". In case no attack is spotted and a ship receives damage (say a ship not equipped with sonar) then the "flaming datum" will be placed on the location of the targeted ship at the moment of torpedo impact.

By right clicking on the datum you can select "Mark Position" and it will create a reference point right on it specifying the time it was placed so you can track it later.

Is this what you mean?
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Certainly part of it, thx. At start of a scenario you might get a position of a submarine with lat/long. That could be a datum position. But I think I can manage that with a goblin. Although not exactly the same it works of course fine.
Thx again for you're answer.
With regards
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