We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

South Northern part End of Turn

Yes, your eyes are not seeing things. An FBD is repairing the Brest-to-Rovno line. 2nd Pz is pushing on Kiev.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

South End of Turn

With so many Soviet units to get rid of in the pocket I formed last turn the majority of my Divisions are stuck mopping up. I set up a forward defense, even though I believe the Soviets are gone from the area but I am always careful to do so. I don't recon often so I don't know if there are. But I always set up a good defense since I don't like "squatters" coming into my newly founded Reich territory.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

South South End of Turn

Yes, your eyes are not seeing things again. There are two German FBD's here with one on rail from up North. I will explain my depot placement and supply soon enough. I surround some of the Soviet units that I hit last turn that did not have enough MP's to get away.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

Rumanian North border End of Turn

Yes, the Rumanian FBD went to where I circled. I have a plan for rail conversion in the South as you should be able to tell by now. I was also able to get more Soviet units surrounded down here.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

Rumanian border South End of Turn

With the Rumanian Frontier Division now capable of more powerful attacks I am able to fully surround those pesky Sov Cav divisions. Where before I could not. In this game with Veterin I did not mess up my attacks on the Rumanian border like I did in my Beethoven game where I was gunning for Soviet fighter kills.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

Supply network

I am not going into detail just yet on what I am doing on supply. I did mention it in this thread https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 6&t=388400 and in the discord channel where I have shown turn 6 info on this setup of depots and freight. I am also using my JU-52's flying out of Berlin, Vienna, and Prague flying freight from there to depots that are close to those cities. If you follow the link I just linked you can see my freight at those depots. I will "NOT" be releasing that freight unless I absolutely need it. As of turn 6 I have not needed any of that freight. ALSO note that I did NOT build any depots turn 1. I never do. I let the existing depots fill up for my purpose I am experimenting on.

In a nutshell I am very very very very happy on my supply I have. The other key on my supply is linking in secondary and tributary links. Again I will get into it in later turns of the AAR. Just realize I can fail and this all comes crumbling down around me. But what little bit of knowledge I have in this game, since I am the worst player ever, seems to be working out really well. The TOP key point, which I am not mentioning yet, of why this is working ;-P Stay tuned.

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Turn 2

Air Losses End of Turn

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Turn 2

End of Turn

Ground Losses

197 Soviet units destoyed and many surrounded again in the south and Rumanian border for next turn.

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Turn 2

End of Turn

Truck Pool

Here is my truck pool for comparison with other games. Let me know if this is good or bad. Thank you in advance. Realize I started with -15,000 trucks too in this patch :(

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

End of Turn

OOB

Soviets at 1,700,00ish men. Nothing to see here as this rockets to the moon over the coming turns.

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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 2

End of Turn

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Pretty successful turn I feel. But what do I know? Nothing. I have a plan for both the ground war and supply situation. Is it the right plan? I don't know but I felt it necessary to test out. I thank my opponent, Veterin, for being a great sport waiting on my turns since I am juggling a game with Beethoven and a hectic work schedule. I thank Beethoven too for being patient with me and my hectic schedule. Please feel free to comment or ask questions on my stupidity in game. Thank you for reading my ramblings and looking at the snapshots.

Next update should be tomorrow if I can find some time from work and setting up a test bed for Joel.
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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:20 am Turn 2

Rumanian North border End of Turn

Yes, the Rumanian FBD went to where I circled. I have a plan for rail conversion in the South as you should be able to tell by now. I was also able to get more Soviet units surrounded down here.


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This will be interesting. The natural method is to work this along to connect the Black Sea ports, which I am thinking is a bit of a waste as the ports can get supply from cargo vessels. I was going to trial this in my next game so it will be good to heat if you think this is more productive. I doubt however, that I will also have German 3 FBDs working for AGS!
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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Supply

I'm also playing Vet. I agree that the key to getting a strong flow to the front is to get as many lines working around the border areas, rather than relying on single threads of dual lines. The latter is quicker to build but just doesn't do the job unless you can grab a quick victory.

I am measuring supply by what comes out of the four NSS (Berlin, Frankfurt, Vienna and Prague). I will update my AAR with my progress, it will be interesting to compare approaches. I was blessed with good rail capture in the north in my push to Leningrad, but otherwise my rail repairs were fairly broadly based, unlike your focus on the south.
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Re: We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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jasonbroomer wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:54 am Supply

I was blessed with good rail capture in the north in my push to Leningrad, but otherwise my rail repairs were fairly broadly based, unlike your focus on the south.
Glad you were blessed with a good flip of rail in the North. On the other hand, my Northern railroad is a mess to say the least and my focus is not to convert but to preserve. I know that won't make sense at the moment but in due time in the AAR that will become relevant ;-P
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Turn 3

Fast forward to Turn 7 since turn 3 - 6 really showed very little action other than turn 6 taking of Khereson port which I may show.

Since I have the 41 bombing scenario for Joel here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 4#p5038144 close to completion I figured I would start updating this AAR since I have a few moments. Granted I have to get Joel 44 bombing too but I have a saved game from 44 for that already and just need to flip a turn to get the assets properly setup for that bombing to get the save over to Joel.

BUT I am going to deviate from going straight into the ground war of turn 7 and will go over my supply situation turn 7 for any that may be interested in what I am doing. I first brought this up in this thread https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 6&t=388400 The following pictures will be of my depots with supply sitting in them and where I have been converting to give a glimpse of what I have. If anyone sees a problem or if I can do things better don't hesitate to give feedback. I welcome all feedback even if to tell me I am completely nuts. Without further ado here goes.
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Turn 7

First the Front line in my game with Veterin. As expected there has been little action other than a few minor delaying forces by the Soviets in the South turns 3 - 6. The "META" in WITE2 has been to abandon the South recently and I feel that Veterin did the same with such few forces in the South and Center I said in BETA the Germans need to play in the Center. I also was showing that the Germans should play in the Center in my game with Bobo here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=365305 Control of the Center gives the Germans the ability to flip either North or South at will if set up properly but that is another story.

Granted there are many arguments why Germany should not concentrate in the South and Center and rush for Leningrad and Moscow. Those arguments are very well founded but I am always a gluten for punishment and am pushing the South and Center to see what may come this way. Anyway here is the front line in the Center End of Turn 7. OH, before I forget I have had rain for 4 turns in the North and in the Center 3 turns. Seems very "historical" :lol:


Turn 7

5 hexes from Kharkov
6 hexes from Stalino


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Turn 7

FBD's full speed ahead!

The 4 arrows shows my 4 German FBDS repair paths. In the South, South Center the Germans lack rails that go West to East. I am converting single line rail to assist in the movement of supplies and linking those lines with RAD SU's. Here in this picture you can see my intentions and depots already built.
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Turn 7

Key point

Normally German supply is sent in 3 different direction in the game from the NSS. The North, the Center, and the South. By me doing a dedicated push in the South and Center South I am concentrating all German supply in that direction. Granted only so much comes out of the NSS's in games but in this game I am directing is specifically to the South, ONE direction instead of three. This in and of itself should be "the" key point. Maybe I am right, maybe I am wrong. But so far it looks pretty good. Although I advanced further than I wanted to turn six by moving more than 30 hexes from a forward Depot.

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FRACK

Gotta get on a conference call. Be back in a few to continue.
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Turn 7

I fly JU-52s to air transport supply out of the NSS's forward to be picked up by the rail system next turn. Ever ounce out of the NSS helps!

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