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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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Probably it's because i'm a law-guy but i know that when you sign a contract without reading carefully all the conditions in it, especially if the contract has been made by the other part, then you cannot say "Oh, well, sorry i didn't read the contract that well, can we abort it and make a brand new one?"

Anyway guys, i'm having fun with this game, despite the HRs and the constant ass-kicking i'm getting all over the map...and having fuin is what i really look for when i play a game, so it's ok.

Gosh! We TOLD ya you nasty boy! [:D]
But don't get "divorced" yet uh? Now it's the fun part for the Allies [;)]

If you take a look at Admiral Laurent's game, you'll see that the Allies definitely always have a chance to come back.

Do you have any rule about not going for the Aleutians?

Edit: Hey GH, does this: "13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any american territory occupied by japanese, however." mean no Aleutians move except if he does it first?
Holy crap, he really had you.

But from what I saw here, what other people told you and what I see over at Pauk's, take my word. That man ain't kosher to me.

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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed
Probably it's because i'm a law-guy but i know that when you sign a contract without reading carefully all the conditions in it, especially if the contract has been made by the other part, then you cannot say "Oh, well, sorry i didn't read the contract that well, can we abort it and make a brand new one?"

Anyway guys, i'm having fun with this game, despite the HRs and the constant ass-kicking i'm getting all over the map...and having fuin is what i really look for when i play a game, so it's ok.

Gosh! We TOLD ya you nasty boy! [:D]
But don't get "divorced" yet uh? Now it's the fun part for the Allies [;)]

If you take a look at Admiral Laurent's game, you'll see that the Allies definitely always have a chance to come back.

Do you have any rule about not going for the Aleutians?


Don't worry!I'm really "in love" and i won't get divorced nor i won't go to a lawyer[:D]

I'm confident btw.[;)]

Yes, Aleutinas are a forbidden theatre...[:'(]...for me at least. He can attack if he wants to, so i have to keep some units there...
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

That man ain't kosher to me.



LOL[:D][:D][:D]...reminds me of a speach of the movie "Slevin"[;)]
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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So if not for VP victory I don't see any way he can really benefit in strategic sense from his little India endeavour. He already "lost" a sizeable army that will have to stay in India if he doesn't want to lose it even faster than he got it. And he's already in worse shape in the Pacific than he was at start. Sorry, no profits there in my opinion.
Do you have any HRs that prohibits you from use of paras for recon? I think you should be able to land on Marianas from Eniwetok? Not now as it would only alarm him but later it may provide valuable intelligence.
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Elladan

So if not for VP victory I don't see any way he can really benefit in strategic sense from his little India endeavour. He already "lost" a sizeable army that will have to stay in India if he doesn't want to lose it even faster than he got it. And he's already in worse shape in the Pacific than he was at start. Sorry, no profits there in my opinion.
Do you have any HRs that prohibits you from use of paras for recon? I think you should be able to land on Marianas from Eniwetok? Not now as it would only alarm him but later it may provide valuable intelligence.

Yes. Just like Elladan says the more ground he grabs the better.
It will only make him weaker everywhere else, especially in SOPAC.

What are your offensive projects GH? Is the whole KB in Bombay right now?
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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I haven't any transport a/c that can fly at that range! And, above all,i do not find historically correct to use allied para units as kamikaze recon groups... we do not have a specific HR for that btw
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

That man ain't kosher to me.



LOL[:D][:D][:D]...reminds me of a speach of the movie "Slevin"[;)]
Yes true - I was also thinking about "Snatch" while writing that [:D]
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed
Do you have any rule about not going for the Aleutians?

Edit: Hey GH, does this: "13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any american territory occupied by japanese, however." mean no Aleutians move except if he does it first?
Holy crap, he really had you.

In regard to this HR, it could be interesting to see how you define 'offensive action'. Is building up bases like Kiska or Attu basing long range recons and FP there considered as an offensive action? Is mining considered as offensive? More importantly is building up a sub replenishment base offensive? Okok I play with words[;)]

Anyway taking a look at both the North and Central Pac zones after Retribution, he clearly moved/redispatched no LCU from their initial position nor did any major effort to fortify or mine so far, most 4th fleet SNLFs are more than likely still at Kwajalein and the same goes for the SouthSeas units, I would bet they are all still at Truk.

Question is what is his overall transport capacity in this theatre?

Also any idea of his situation in the DEI? What has he left to defend Amboina, Kendari, Koepang? Alternating strikes in this area once he come back in strengh in central Pac and a follow up advance against the Mariannas could seriously put him offbalance.His tendency to overconcentrate can be used against him.

Also some selective fast transport-commandos actions against poorly defended outposts can be worthwhile even if you dont plan on staying due to your limited ressources. That would ruin his efforts to fortify and may force him to redeploy reserves in emergency rather than in a planned way.

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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

I haven't any transport a/c that can fly at that range! And, above all,i do not find historically correct to use allied para units as kamikaze recon groups... we do not have a specific HR for that btw

What about Catalinas/Coronados? They should reach at least 18 hexes. And as your opponent is using his paras in very unhistorical way I don't see a problem with that. I presume you are not allowed to land from subs?
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: TenChiMato
ORIGINAL: Fishbed
Do you have any rule about not going for the Aleutians?

Edit: Hey GH, does this: "13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any american territory occupied by japanese, however." mean no Aleutians move except if he does it first?
Holy crap, he really had you.

In regard to this HR, it could be interesting to see how you define 'offensive action'. Is building up bases like Kiska or Attu basing long range recons and FP there considered as an offensive action? Is mining considered as offensive? More importantly is building up a sub replenishment base offensive? Okok I play with words[;)]

TenChiMato is definitely right. I see nothing that may forbid you from bombing Kuriles into submission once your Aleutians bases are built up there. If he wants them, he'll have to come and get them!
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/42

At Bombay now are based 100 fighters (surely zeros) and 300 bombers, plus a great numbers of aux, surely mavis/emilies.... Soon he won't need the KB around there anymore!...
For the rest a very quiet turn in India. I just bombed with my bombers from Karachi his lonely scouting para unit that is advancing alone towards Malir...to see what i have there i bet!

In the PI my B-25s decided it was time to perform an offensive mission. He's moving lots of convoys with troops from Formosa to Bataan Island...we launched 3 strikes. nearly 50 oscars came attacking our bombers. lost 2 of them in the process but managed to hit two AKs full of troops.

In the Marshalls we keep on training our BBs against Kwalajein,while men, supplies and planes are flowing to the newly copnquered bases from all over the map.

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Naval bombardment of Kwajalein, at 81,84 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Tennessee
BB California
BB Arizona
BB Oklahoma
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
3767 casualties reported
Guns lost 61

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 3

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Day Air attack on 2nd Parachute Regiment, at 23,5 *2 hexes south of Malir...*


Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 3
CW-22 Falcon x 2
Blenheim I x 16
Blenheim IV x 36
Martin 139 x 6
Hudson I x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 10
A-20B Boston x 23
B-25C Mitchell x 6
B-17E Fortress x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

an easy training mission...
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batan Islands at 46,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
B-26B Marauder x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Tsukikawa Maru
AK Tangshan Maru
AK Shinju Maru
AK Nissen Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, on fire[;)]

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported


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Day Air attack on TF, near Batan Islands at 46,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 21
B-26B Marauder x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 25
AK Eiwa Maru
AK Malacca Maru
AK Kunitama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire[;)]
AK Shohei Maru
AK Sakae Maru

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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I will maybe build up a sub base in the Aleutinas, but won't bomb anything,nor perform any offensive mission untill he breaks up and attack me. However i'm fortifying a bit my bases and prepping some defences up there.
No guys, i'll try to play as fair as i can, not on the edge of our HRs.
However i already have Wake and Jaluit as offensive sub bases in Centpac, so i really do not need anymore sub bases up there...not now at least.
 
I'm already building up Darwin for the purpose of conducing, in mid-late 42, an offensive campaign in southern DEI...or at least to be ready to do it if a chance arises. I still need some good recon before saying what he really has there...surely he has very little air force there.
 
In the Pacific he has already fortified Iwo Jiima but nothing at the Mariannas...and i bet most of his AP/AKs are in India or northern DEI at the moment...
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/06/42

So, finally he decided to do something in the PI!
It seems that he wants to land some ground units there...i bet a base force and some SNLF in order to clear Manila air force...
at the same time he sent a strong bombing force, escorted by a zero Daitai against Manila AF...my P-40s did a good job, exchanging enough blows with the dreaded zeros, while the AA and the strong fortifications did the rest, defending Manila well!
Then my bombers retalieted and attack the upcoming enemy convoys...several bomb hit hard the enemy ships and despite i won't stop him from landing, i've caused him some good headhaces![;)]

SS Sealion dares to enter in Tokyo harbour and torpedoed a ship[:D]

a good turn indeed


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TF 1135 encounters mine field at Truk (66,78)

Allied Ships
SS Pollack, Mine hits 1, on fire

Ouch....[:@]
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G3M Nell x 78
G4M1 Betty x 50

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Good boys! Well done guys![8D]
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Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 23
B-26B Marauder x 6
B-17D Fortress x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Meiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Shingo Maru
AK Yubari Maru
AK Hankow Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Tasmania Maru
PG Akitsu Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Ryotoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Junjo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Tokyo at 66,43

Japanese Ships
AK Peking Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Sealion[8D]


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Ground combat at Lahore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2840 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Defending force 1048 troops, 15 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese max assault: 146 - adjusted assault: 134

Allied max defense: 2 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 67 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lahore base !!![:@][:(]


Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!




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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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To me you wouldn't play on the edge of your HRs - the HRs are already playing on the edge of sanity... [:o]

Btw don't care about SEAC. The quickest way to the Home Islands isn't passing through there. You may still use the forces due in that theater if you transfer them to SOPAC and start to get on his nerves down there.
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

To me you wouldn't play on the edge of your HRs - the HRs are already playing on the edge of sanity... [:o]

Btw don't care about SEAC. The quickest way to the Home Islands isn't passing through there. You may still use the forces due in that theater if you transfer them to SOPAC and start to get on his nerves down there.


Yes, i'll have to concentrate in the Pacific right now, and possibly in souther DEI. He cannot reinforce everywhere with tons of Divisions... For sure we'll soon see some air battles in the skies of Truk/Eniwetok. I'm really looking forward to be able to have the Liberators...75x month!!!...salivating[:D]...compared to the 15 B-17Es and 1 B-17Ds i get right now monthly i'll be really able to keep him busy, even with Tonies/Tojos arriving on the line...
However, now i need to focus on defending well what i've gained with RETRIBUTION. I do not feel too confortable yet...wanna be sure he won't arrive and smash everything up ....

I'm also thinking about the McHartur's route...from PM to North Guinea...could be another option to be considered...
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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We also need to pimp your subs GH.
We need to get them into an intensive Speedy (c)-like training program. The HRs are so hard you absolutely need to use everything possibly efficient in the Allies' arsenal, don't you think so?

2 or 3 succesful sub attacks everyday may start to divert a lot of ressources on the Japanese side...
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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Oh yes my friend. I'm trying and i think i'm learning a way to do that...in fact the attacks are becoming the more and more efficient every day....the sub war needs some more understanding still from me, but i'm learning fast!
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RE: Karachi in ruins...

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As foreseen, he landed 5 units at Luzon, clearly he wants to clear the skies over Manila in order to free again his supply routes to the HI...well..60 zeros there...i have very few hopes of holding my ground with only barely 30 active fighters...anyway we did a good job yesterday: 3 zeros and 6 nells downed in A2A combat![;)] against only 2 P-40s lost

If/when my fighters will be swept away, i'll move my air force back to China...where maybe those guys can be usefull again!

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If it really is just snlf's and base forces - kick him back into the sea.  Your men may be bad, but you've got a lot of them.
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ORIGINAL: Yakface

If it really is just snlf's and base forces - kick him back into the sea.  Your men may be bad, but you've got a lot of them.

He knows that trick. He told me he has done the same, playing as allied, against another player...so he can bomb to hell my advancing units and at the same time land at San Fernando or somewhere else and cut me off from Manila...i'd really prefer to stay there and keep diggin in( forts level almost 8 at Manila and Clark), saving precious supplies for the final stand when he will decide to come back


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