Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Boagrius]

<type>Add</type>

<summary>Hypothetical Boeing Airpower Teaming System (ATS) aka "Loyal Wingman"</summary>

<detail>The Boeing ATS is an unmanned aircraft using AI to augment manned aircraft like the RAAF's F35 and Super Hornet fighters. It has been depicted as having a modular, interchangeable nose-cone to house a variety of payloads ranging from EW/cyber to specific sensors (eg. EO/IR).



<evidence>
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021/03 ... st-flight/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSKNW-KAaJ0
https://youtu.be/7-JwzfKAesc
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/loyal ... f-of-2121/
</evidence>

[tylerblakebrandon]

<type>New</type>
<summary>Add Northrop Grumman Firebird Optionally-Manned ISR Aircraft</summary>
<detail>
Optionally-Manned 30 Hour endurance ISR aircraft in service with undisclosed US Govermnent Agency(ies).
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... VCkh8xDtHU
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... his-summer
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... d-firebird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_Firebird
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2021/04/1 ... vironment/
https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... exibility/
https://seapowermagazine.org/northrop-g ... exibility/
https://www.flightglobal.com/military-u ... 70.article
https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we ... /firebird/
</evidence>

[tylerblakebrandon]

<type>New</type>
<summary>Add Hypothetical Phase II Iowa BB Conversions</summary>
<detail>
Phase II would have been dramatic and transformative. As Myers described later, among other modifications, the converted interdiction/assault ships would have offered:

Six 16-inch guns that could fire a variety of modern munitions
A 320-tube vertical launch system (VLS) capable of firing Tomahawks, Standard Missiles, ballistic missiles, and the Army Tactical Missile System family
Flight and hangar decks in place of the after turret, for various mixes of AV-8B Harriers, heavy-lift and attack helicopters, and MV-22 Ospreys
Accommodations for SEALs and 800 Marines for short periods
Logistics spaces and machine shops
Medical facilities and operating rooms
</detail>
<evidence>
https://ipmsusa.org/reviews/features/He ... ersion.htm
https://www.navalhistory.org/2019/06/28 ... r-took-off
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9463151 ... 696811402/
</evidence>

[tylerblakebrandon]

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[tylerblakebrandon]

type>New</type>
<summary>Add Hypothetical Lightweight Battleship</summary>
<detail>
In November 1982, as the Iowa-class reactivation had just begun and elaborate Phase II conversions still seemed possible, a naval architect named Gene Anderson wrote proposed a class of &#8242;&#8242; light battleships &#8242;&#8242; built around the four turrets that would be removed from Iowas in the process of Phase II.

The proposed design
~ 9000 tons
400 feet long
84 feet beam
22 feet draught
The shape of the hull is heavily inspired by contemporary merchant ships (cruising bow above water and bulbous underwater prow)
protection consisting of an unspecified armored deck and box around the machinery and command/control spaces, torpedo blisters, and a triple bottom.
Propulsion would be 4 to 6 diesel engines. Speed of up to 25 knots to escort 20 knots amphibs.
Armament as described:
1 16 "/ 50 triple turret with 270 degrees of train.
Three to five 5 inch Mk 45 guns, some possibly replaced by 8 inch MK 71 guns or brackets for 155 mm/50 vertical guns that fire standard Army/Marine 155 mm.
Two Mk 26 launchers for Standard Missiles/ASROC
Two Phalanx CIWS.
Most sensors aren't mentioned but possibly NTU set-up for SM-1/2.
Virgina CGN style elevator/hangar space for two helicopters.
Crewis estimated at 320.
This ' lightweight battleship ' (BBL) as suggested by naval architect Gene Anderson was essentially an ocean-capable monitor that would double the number of artillery support warships available for the cost of ~ four frigates, which could be used to show the flag in peacetime and to support amphibious missions in war time.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9463151 ... 696811402/
</evidence>

[14yellow14]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add GBU-31(v)3 BLU-109 loadouts to IDF Fighters</summary>
<detail>
It is a common anti-bunker weapon in the IDF, used at least on F-16I Sufa but almost certainly also on F-15I Raam and F-35A.

They were used in the Outside The Box operation against the Syrian nuclear reactor in 2008.




F-15I


</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/alexgarcialonso/sta ... 7907493892
https://www.defensenews.com/global/mide ... ons-drive/
</evidence>

Thanks!

[Anzu]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Minigun for Finnish and Italian NH-90 TTHs</summary>
<detail>
Finland has used the Dillon M134D-H Minigun as a door based support weapon for NH-90 helicopters (#2354) since 2014. The mounts are removable and up to two of them can be installed by two mechs in about an hour. Italy also has used the same setup (#661) even before that. With the Italian Army the setup has been used operationally in Afghanistan.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://puolustusvoimat.fi/en/equipment ... iew/id/236
https://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/utin_ ... ing_oviase
https://www.helis.com/database/modelorg/Finland-NH90/
https://www.milavia.net/specials/italia ... w.php?f=29
</evidence>

[Anzu]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Gabriel V missile has got the wrong specs</summary>
<detail>
The Gabriel V missile (weapon #3648) currently being introduced in the Finnish and Isreaeli navies (+ being offered to Singapore and the UK) has still got duplicated specs of the Gabriel II (weapon #1558), a 40+ year older weapon under half the size.

There are not that many details released yet, but the Finnish Navy has given some info that should be considered the bare minimum when it comes to size, range and capabilities.

Length: 5,5 m
Weight: 1250 kg
Range: 200+ km
Speed and powerplant: subsonic jet turbine
Targeting: GPS and INS with multiple waypoints, Active radar homing with advanced anti-jamming ability
Warhead: Penetrator warhead also usable against land targets


</detail>
<evidence>
https://puolustusvoimat.fi/en/equipment ... iew/id/329
https://merivoimat.fi/-/merivoimien-uus ... -gabriel-5
</evidence>

[KLAB]

Mentioned this some time back too.
It beat the RBS15 MK3 and similar high end systems to win the Finnish order so the DB entry is selling the Gabriel V way short on its current specs. IMHO.
K

ORIGINAL: Anzu

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Gabriel V missile has got the wrong specs</summary>
<detail>
The Gabriel V missile (weapon #3648) currently being introduced in the Finnish and Isreaeli navies (+ being offered to Singapore and the UK) has still got duplicated specs of the Gabriel II (weapon #1558), a 40+ year older weapon under half the size.

There are not that many details released yet, but the Finnish Navy has given some info that should be considered the bare minimum when it comes to size, range and capabilities.

Length: 5,5 m
Weight: 1250 kg
Range: 200+ km
Speed and powerplant: subsonic jet turbine
Targeting: GPS and INS with multiple waypoints, Active radar homing with advanced anti-jamming ability
Warhead: Penetrator warhead also usable against land targets


</detail>
<evidence>
https://puolustusvoimat.fi/en/equipment ... iew/id/329
https://merivoimat.fi/-/merivoimien-uus ... -gabriel-5
</evidence>

[Gunner98]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Unit marked 84mm mortar is actually and 81mm mortar</summary>
<detail> Just saw this error. DBID 2060 is a Swedish 84mm mortar but it contains 3x81mm mortars - name change only
It would be very useful to have a Generic 81mm mortar with 4x 81mm mortar mounts, useful with many armies and platoons are normally 4 or 8
</detail>
<evidence>
See clip
</evidence>

[Anzu]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Hamina update 2020 has got the wrong specs</summary>
<detail>
The 2020 update for the Finnish Navy Hamina class FACs (ship #3186) use the specs of the still hypothetical Israeli Sa'ar 72-class (ship #2719).

The correct updates should be the following:

Mounts/Stores/Weapons
1 x BAE Systems Bofors 40 Mk4 (this iteration is missing in-game, but should be included as it is also ordered by several other navies and can fully use 3P ammo).
4 x Tp 45 ASW Torpedos (weapon #1595), from 2023 Tp 47 (still missing in-game)
4 x Gabriel V (see above)
8 x Umkhonto-IR Mk 2 (weapon #2770)
1 x SAAB Trackfire RWS with 12,7mm/50 MG (mount missing in-game)
2 x 12,7mm/50 MG with manual control (weapon #1695)
2 x MASS decoy launchers (#455)

Sensors EW
-Newest upgrade of the TRS-3D/16ES (the same upgrade the German Braunschweig class is entering)
-Kongsberg ST2400 VDS
-SAAB 9LV CMS Next Gen (derivate of Mk 4)
-SAAB CEROS 200 Next Gen (derivate of Mk 4)
-Furuno navigation radar

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... sile-boat/
https://www.kongsberg.com/maritime/abou ... -mid-life/
https://www.furuno.fi/eng/furuno/news/2 ... sile-boats
</evidence>

[Blast33]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Additional info on Spear-3 missile EW variant</summary>
<detail>
Lots of info about the Spear missile on link of evidence#1 (how is your Korean? [;)])
Also range and loitertime info.</detail>
<evidence>
https://maily.so/sheldon/posts/b1e423
https://twitter.com/W_ChiefGunner/statu ... 47/photo/2
</evidence>

[Anzu]

<type>New</type>
<summary>Add BAe Bofors 40mm Mk 4</summary>
<detail>
Please add the Bofors 40mm Mk 4 (weapon #3773) to all other ships using or planning to use it. Currently it is only found ingame on the future Royal Navy Type 31 frigates, but it has also been sold to several other countries. It should also be a considerable upgrade compared to older versions as it is the first 40mm that can fully use 3P ammunition, with on-mount TV camera and muzzle velocity radar and 6 programmable ammo modes.

At least the following classes have been or are to be equipped with the new gun.

Brazil: Macaé class OPV (#2931). In use.
Brazil: Tamandaré class FFG (still not in-game).
Finland: Hamina class FAC MLU (#3186). In use.
Sweden: Koster class MCMV MLU (still not in-game, but being completed as we speak, with new main gun, upgraded ROV and a new AUV)
Netherlands: New class of MCMVs (still not in-game)
Belgium: New class of MCMVs (still not in-game)
Japan: Mizuho class WHEC (Japanese Coast Guard)
UK: Type 31 Frigate



</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/40mk4-naval-gun
https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/articl ... or-finland
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... 0-mm-guns/
https://www.baesystems.com/en-br/articl ... for-brazil
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... look-like/
https://www.naval-technology.com/news/b ... programme/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -main-gun/
</evidence>

[Anzu]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary> Add minelayer Pohjanmaa 1979</summary>
<detail>
The minelayer, training ship and Navy flagship FNS 01 Pohjanmaa is missing completely from the database, active 1979 to 2013.

General data:
Cathegory: Surface Combatant
Type: ML - Minelayer
Damage points: unknown, but she was a similar but slightly bigger version of the Hämeenmaa-class (#2139), so about 300
Length: 78,6 m
Beam: 11,2 m
Draft: 3,3 m
Empty displacement: 1,000 tons
Standard displacement: 1,100 tons
Full displacement: 1,450 tons
Crew: 80
Max sea state: 6 or 7
Troop capacity: 70 as a training ship and during Operation Atlanta
Cargo capacity:
OODA Cycle: Probaby similar to the Pansio class (#876) or Helsinki class (#1297), both surface combatants without any air defence missiles
Missile defence: 2 or 3 Harpoon / SLAM / Maverick equipvalents. No air defence missiles, but bigger and sturdier ships than the previously mentioned.
Pier / Dock / Davit Size: Very Large Pier
Belt Armor: None
Bulkhead Armor: None
Deck Armor: None
Engineering Armor: None
Bridge Armor: None
CIC Armor: None
Rudder Armor: None

Sensors / EW:
1x DA.05 [RAWS-3] Radar (sensor #1188)
1x 9GA208 Radar (sensor #716)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar] (sensor #3341)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera] (sensor #3650)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [IR] (sensor #3651)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder] (sensor #3654)
1x SS304 Spira -- Norway (sensor #338)
1x K/SLQ-200(V)K Sonata [ECM] -- Argo Phoenix mod, AR-700A (sensor #2182)
1x K/SLQ-200(V)K Sonata [ESM] -- Argo Phoenix mod, AR-700A (sensor #2184)
1x Mk 1 Eyball

Mounts / Stores / Weapons (from 1979 to 1996)
-1x 120mm/46 Bofors [TAK120] (mount #221), with 39x 120mm/46 Bofors GP Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #171), directed by 9GA208 and local control
-2x 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors (mount #944), with 42x 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors Burst [2 rnds] (weapon #782), 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors -- 2x Mounts (magazine #61), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder], local control
-2x 23mm Twin (mount #1408), with 23mm Twin Burst [20 rnds] (weapon #389), 23mm Twin -- 2x Mounts (magazine #59), local control
-2x 12.7mm/50 MG -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (mount #561), 10x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (weapon #1695), 12.7mm/50 MG -- 2x Mounts (magazine #761), local control
-2x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] (mount #200), 12x Depth Charge [Generic] (weapon #1815)
-4x mine rails for 150 mines of different types incl:
*Generic Mine [Bottom, Simple Magnetic Fuze] (weapon #632)
*Generic Mine [Moored, Contact Fuze] (weapon #633),


Mounts / Stores / Weapons (from 1998 to 2013)
-1x 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 -- 1967 (mount #454), 0+20 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 HCER Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #1437), 10+12x 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 HE Burst [4 rnds] (Weapon #1438), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder]
-1x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors (mount #1792), 15x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #2006), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder], local control
-2x 23mm Twin (mount #1408), with 23mm Twin Burst [20 rnds] (weapon #389), 23mm Twin -- 2x Mounts (magazine #59), local control
-2x 12.7mm/50 MG -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (mount #561), 10x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (weapon #1695), 12.7mm/50 MG -- 2x Mounts (magazine #761), local control
-2x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] (nount #200), 12x Depth Charge [Generic] (weapon #1815)
-4x mine rails for 150 mines of different types incl:
*Generic Mine [Moored, Contact Fuze] (weapon #633),
*Generic Mine [Bottom, Total-Field Magnetometer Fuze] (weapon #2461)
*Stonefish Mine [Bottom, Total-Field Magnetometer Fuze, Passive Acoustic, Pressure] -- -UK Export (weapon #3405)

Propulsion:
2x Wärtsilä-Vasa 16V22 diesels, max speed 19 kn

Creep Throttle: 5 kn, 0,9 kg per minute
Cruise Throttle: 12 kn, 1 kg per minute
Full Throttle: 15 kn, 1,89 kg per minute
Flank Throttle: 19 kn, 3,75 kg per minute
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_m ... _Pohjanmaa
</evidence>

[14yellow14]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Upgrade Iron Dome battery launchers</summary>

<detail>Currently in the database each Iron Dome launcher has only 10 missiles when the capacity is 20 missiles per TEL.





20 per TEL so 60 missiles per system ready to fire.

</detail>
<evidence>https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense. ... s/irondome
https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/ever ... iron-dome/

</evidence>


Thanks!

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Indian Khukri and Kora class corvettes with Varuna ECM 2021</summary>
<detail> India installed Varuna Jammers on Khukri and Kora class corvettes. See no pictures with it prior to 2020. First link stats. 2nd link picture on Khukri. 3rd picture Kora. If you look up you can see AHU broadband box on the crown. INS got 18 of these so there is another class that uses it. Didn't see it on the Kamorta's or Sanyu's.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/GODOFPARADOXES/stat ... 92/photo/2
https://twitter.com/GODOFPARADOXES/stat ... 5198322692
https://www.siasat.com/swarnim-vijay-va ... a-2112180/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Add BEL Ajanta Mk.2 EW suite to Kolkata and Brahmaputra (2007) Destroyers.</summary>
<detail> Pr.15a Kolkata and Brahmaputra the BEL Ajanta Mk.2 EW Suite (in db as INS-3? on Delhi). ESM is Ellora. MBJ Jammer (I-K Band)seems to be last link. Follow on seems to be Shakti which are being implemented soon but couldn't find any stats.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status ... 8187482112
https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status ... 84/photo/1
https://alphadefense.in/vizag-has-risen/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmaputra-class_frigate
https://defenceforumindia.com/proxy.php ... 2f295cc18a
</evidence>

[FifthDomain]

Can I request an update to the USAF HH-60W Pave Hawk to have SAR/CSAR loadout as its listed as a search and rescue helicopter with no SAR loadout available. It has a unrefuelled combat radius of 195nm for SAR/CSAR missions. It would seem its also been called Jolly Green II.

Full Rate production will also include some potential new updates.

Some of the CRH Capability Upgrade Candidates includes :

- Distributed Aperture Infrared Countermeasures (DAIRCM - USN)
- Overlayed Electro-Optical/Infrared with Tactical Symbology
- Global Positioning System Anti-Jam/Anti-Spoof
- Degraded Visual Environment System S
- Integrated Vehicle Health Monitoring System (IVHMS) Control via Cabin Multi-Function Displays
- Blue Force Tracker (BFT) 2 R
- Video Data Link
- Radar Frequency (RF) Jammer
- Electronic Flight Bags (EFB)
- Automated Dependent Surveillance Broadcast-In Device
- Hardware Changes for Diminished Manufacturing Sources
- New Support Equipment Requirements
- Weapon System Trainer/Operational Flight Trainer Simulator Certification Test Discrepancies
- Capability Upgrade Updates to Training Systems to Align with Platform Upgrades

All the above will addresses deficiencies, replace discontinued items and/or upgrade legacy HH-60G functionalities

The HC-130J Combat King II should also be able to refuel this helicopter. This was done at 3000 ft and 110 Kts. Currently the Combat King II Can not slow down enough to allow refuelling which appears to be part of it's SAR/CSAR role of the aircraft.

Evidence:

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/pr ... opter.html

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopter ... 19.article

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display ... refueling/

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... pabilities

https://verticalmag.com/news/us-air-for ... -upgrades/

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... r-upgrades

https://www.helis.com/database/news/hh- ... y-upgrade/

https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... rcraft-us/

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... tGuide.pdf

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets ... t-king-ii/

Thanks for your time Sam

[14yellow14]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update SAAR 6 weapons (ship_3224)</summary>
<detail>
Many of the SAAR 6 weapons in the current database are incorrect.



No Phalanx
2 Rafael Typhoon 25 mm RWS
76/62 OTO Melara Super Rapido
Barak 8 (16 cells, 2x8)
C-Dome (40 cells, 10 each C-DOME module)







</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... er-warship
https://twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1050446488676028417
https://twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1334218914377707520
</evidence>

Thanks!

[KLAB]

Duplicate deleted. See below. Thanks.