Turn Based PC wargame in Star Trek Theme

[sysrkm]

Hi folks,

I didn't want to clutter the STO thread with this so I'll start something here. Has anyone heard about a Turn Based Star Trek game or a computer version of Star Fleet Battles?

Regards,

Rob

[killroyishere]

You might want to try this site.

http://www.sfbonline.com/index.jsp

[RedArgo]

I occassionally look for a turn basic space combat game like SFB, but I've not come across anything. There was an ancient game from SSI called the Warp Factor that was SFB without the license. I'm suprised no one has ever made a newer computer version or clone of SFB considering how long it has been around and I presume how popular it was or is.

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ORIGINAL: sysrkm

Hi folks,

I didn't want to clutter the STO thread with this so I'll start something here. Has anyone heard about a Turn Based Star Trek game or a computer version of Star Fleet Battles?

Regards,

Rob

Except for the fact it's RTS, Starfleet Command I-III + Orion Pirates is Starfleet Battles. Even though you can turn the speed waaaay down, it's still RTS. But worth a look if found in a bargain bin. Also note there were TONS of mods to make the first two versions look very much like the original SFB.

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ORIGINAL: RedArgo

I occassionally look for a turn basic space combat game like SFB, but I've not come across anything. There was an ancient game from SSI called the Warp Factor that was SFB without the license. I'm suprised no one has ever made a newer computer version or clone of SFB considering how long it has been around and I presume how popular it was or is.

Oooh forgot that one! The first one changed the names but even had the schematics for Star Trek ships. Later editions did away with that once SSI got their hands spanked. (Im suprised they didn't get their hands spanked more often in the 80's as many of their games were direct correlations (not conversions, which was probably the key) of AH, SPI, etc boardgames at the time.

[sysrkm]

Hi folks,

Thanks for the heads up on SFB Online, but it is not a standalone product, it's more like what Vassal is for board wargames.

I was looking more for something like what MekTek is to Battletech and Mechwarrior, something along those same lines for Star Fleet Battles or even a TURN based version of Starfleet Command.

I'd even settle for a computer version of Silent Death by Iron Crown. Man I LOVED that game...

If anyone has heard of such games existing, please let me know.

Regards,

Rob

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ORIGINAL: sysrkm

Hi folks,

I was looking more for something like ... a TURN based version of Starfleet Command.

I've been looking for the same for a very long time. To date, the closest is still SSI's 1981 game; The Warp Factor (as mentioned above)...

[rickier65]

I'm not really familiar with the Star Trek games you're referring to. But I do recall someone made a Star Drek mod for Advqnced Tactics. This is a hex-based game not an RTS. But if you aren't looking for a 3D game you might look in the Advanced Tactics forum and see more discusion.

Rick

[dooya]

ORIGINAL: sysrkm

Hi folks,

I didn't want to clutter the STO thread with this so I'll start something here. Has anyone heard about a Turn Based Star Trek game or a computer version of Star Fleet Battles?

Regards,

Rob

Did you try Birth of the Federation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... Federation

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ORIGINAL: Rick

I'm not really familiar with the Star Trek games you're referring to.

The Warp Factor is available around the net for different emulators (i.e. AppleWin for Apples, VICE for C64's, etc. So it's free to try, but remember it was programmed and released by 1981 (absolutely astonishing game if taken in the context of the gaming industry back then), so you may find it tedious and unforgiving (i.e. no "take-backs").

Starfleet Command is available in bargain bins and usually on Ferrengi-bay, I mean E-bay. (you want SFC II as it had the most mods for making it look like TOS and/or SFB)

ORIGINAL: Rick

But I do recall someone made a Star Drek mod for Advqnced Tactics. This is a hex-based game not an RTS. But if you aren't looking for a 3D game you might look in the Advanced Tactics forum and see more discusion.

I bought Advanced Tactics with the last Xmas sale... but I can't use it due to an unadvertised requirement for .Net (I cannot use .Net as it wreaks havoc on my system). My problem is that I took too long getting around to trying it, to really try for a refund. Hmmm... can I legally sell a downloaded Matrix game? (I've never paid attention to the question when it cropped up in the past).

[bartholimew]

warp factor was the first computer game i ever played. It borrowed from starfleet battles table top game combat system. Amazing they were never sued but in those days paramount wasn't sending lawyers to look at games with confederation ships that looked like startrek races misspelled.

Starfleet Command uses the same rules as the warp factor but its 3D. Too bad nobody revamped tWF back in the 486 days. Try SfC.

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ORIGINAL: bartholimew

Starfleet Command uses the same rules as the warp factor but its 3D. Too bad nobody revamped tWF back in the 486 days. Try SfC.

A more important aspect to note is that SFC was and RTS (huge difference in gameplay from turn based Warp Factor)

ORIGINAL: bartholimew

warp factor was the first computer game i ever played. It borrowed from starfleet battles table top game combat system. Amazing they were never sued but in those days paramount wasn't sending lawyers to look at games with confederation ships that looked like startrek races misspelled.

Alliance, Klargons, Remans, etc. Actually, SSI did get their hands slapped for the graphic representations of Star Trek. As an example, early versions came with the black data cards and later versions came with the white data cards (see below)...

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...and yet the Star Wars franchise never made a stink (the game also included Imperials and Freeman factions, with Star Wars graphic representations).

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: E

... but I can't use it due to an unadvertised requirement for .Net (I cannot use .Net as it wreaks havoc on my system).

Then you need to sort out your system. .Net was designed with the intention that most new Windows applications would use it.

[Fred98]

And what is .Net ??

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[sabre1]

There was another game from SSI, Crescent something or other that was a turn based space combat between ships simulation. It was a lot of fun IIRC.

[killroyishere]

Another great turn based space fight game by SSI was Renegade Legion Intercepter. It doesn't have ships that look like Trek ships but the combat engine is really very good and the ai as well. You can even custom design your own ship after you've earned enough prestige points. It's the one I play most when I want a good turn based tactical space fight game.

[sabre1]

That was it Killroyishere, I could not remember the name. It was a fun game.

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ORIGINAL: Hertston

ORIGINAL: E

... but I can't use it due to an unadvertised requirement for .Net (I cannot use .Net as it wreaks havoc on my system).

Then you need to sort out your system. .Net was designed with the intention that most new Windows applications would use it.

I could wax philosophical about Microsoft's intentions and NET, but the long and short of it is that I already have enough games to last several lifetimes. I only need to know actual system requirements before a purchase.

But that argument is untimely in this particular case*, so now I want to know whether I can legally sell a Matrix game.


* Note: I'm sure the lack of full system requirements disclosure was not intentional on Matrix' part. They've shown too much class for that to even be a thought.

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ORIGINAL: sabre1

There was another game from SSI, Crescent something or other that was a turn based space combat between ships simulation. It was a lot of fun IIRC.

It sounds like you're referring to The Cosmic Balance and The Cosmic Balance II, both of which were spiritual (if not actual) offshoots of The Warp Factor, with Cosmic Balance II being the strategic game. Both of which were a little more careful to not let any Star Trek-like graphics into the game(s). Here's one of the default scenerios from The Cosmic Balance ("Deep Space Encounter") featuring the Enterprise versus The Reliant...