Pilot HI Cost Question

[paulkenny]

What does the Japanese HI Cost for? Off map pilots? ie in pilot school but not on map?

If so is there a benefit to bringing pilots out of training and into onmap groups, even to the point of overloading all your air groups?

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: paulkenny

What does the Japanese HI Cost for? Off map pilots? ie in pilot school but not on map?

If so is there a benefit to bringing pilots out of training and into onmap groups, even to the point of overloading all your air groups?

1) Yes. You can view the number in the pilot replacements screen. Add up the numbers for months 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, and 10-12 and you will have the total number of pilots being trained using HI.

2) Yes, with the caveat that you don't want untrained pilots flying combat missions. The ones from pilot school will be very poor quality.

[PaxMondo]

And you trade supply for HI ... when in school, pilots consume HI to train. When you pull them out, you spend supply to train. early game, most players are short of supply, not HI. YMMV.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

And you trade supply for HI ... when in school, pilots consume HI to train. When you pull them out, you spend supply to train. early game, most players are short of supply, not HI. YMMV.

My view on it is that I'm going to be burning X amount of supply training pilots anyway. Every unit not on the front or part of a reserve is training 100% for me. Same number of pilots, it's just that I might be starting them from a lower level depending on my pilot turnover...

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

And you trade supply for HI ... when in school, pilots consume HI to train. When you pull them out, you spend supply to train. early game, most players are short of supply, not HI. YMMV.

My view on it is that I'm going to be burning X amount of supply training pilots anyway. Every unit not on the front or part of a reserve is training 100% for me. Same number of pilots, it's just that I might be starting them from a lower level depending on my pilot turnover...

But when you pull them out early, they start at 5 exp instead of +30. Yes, it will take you a while to get down to that level, but you will. And training them from 5 to 30 takes some time ... time that is supply, instead of HI.

It's a player decision, I just want the OP to be aware of what he is trading and be sure that is what he wants.

[jmalter]

IMO the OP wants some hard info wrt HI cost for pilots 'in the queue', & will need hard info for supply-costs of on-map Training groups as well.

The Tracker app will give the HI cost for off-map pilots. Can one find an airgroup's turn-by-turn supply-use in Tracker?

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: jmalter

IMO the OP wants some hard info wrt HI cost for pilots 'in the queue', & will need hard info for supply-costs of on-map Training groups as well.

The Tracker app will give the HI cost for off-map pilots. Can one find an airgroup's turn-by-turn supply-use in Tracker?

HI cost is 5 HI per pilot per month.
supply cost Alfred just researched in a similar thread in the last 10 days.

[joey]

This cost becomes painful by 1943. I supposed it did for the Japanese by then also.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: jmalter

IMO the OP wants some hard info wrt HI cost for pilots 'in the queue', & will need hard info for supply-costs of on-map Training groups as well.

The Tracker app will give the HI cost for off-map pilots. Can one find an airgroup's turn-by-turn supply-use in Tracker?

HI cost is 5 HI per pilot per month.
supply cost Alfred just researched in a similar thread in the last 10 days.

Mine really doesn't appear to be 5 per pilot. Wasn't there a change in the betas? I haven't looked yet.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: jmalter

IMO the OP wants some hard info wrt HI cost for pilots 'in the queue', & will need hard info for supply-costs of on-map Training groups as well.

The Tracker app will give the HI cost for off-map pilots. Can one find an airgroup's turn-by-turn supply-use in Tracker?

HI cost is 5 HI per pilot per month.
supply cost Alfred just researched in a similar thread in the last 10 days.

Mine really doesn't appear to be 5 per pilot. Wasn't there a change in the betas? I haven't looked yet.

Tracker still tells me 5 HI/per pilot/month. I haven't audited Tracker. [;)]

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: joey

This cost becomes painful by 1943. I supposed it did for the Japanese by then also.

Yep and by 44 you will likely have drained your training schools for kami pilots ... at least I do. then its no longer HI, but supply cost.

[rustysi]

One way to reduce the cost of HI for pilot training is to have pilots assigned to the TRACOM reserve section. These pilots are the 81 and over exp guys and they will advance some pilots along the 1-12 month training track. Eventually these pilots wiil graduate early and thus save the 5 HI per month cost. They will have the same exp level as others who graduate basic training.

This will only happen when the TRACOM reaches 10 pilots per service. IOW you need at least 10 IJN or 10 IJA pilots to get the 'bonus' training. To be honest it hasn't happened in my current game (Apr '42) and I don't know why. I have 20 IJA and 30 IJN pilots assigned. If I don't see any messages at the start of my next month I'll have to start checking. I have seen it a bunch in past games I've played.

As I alluded to above you'll know its happening by messages you'll see on the 1st of the month. Something such as 'xx pilots advanced one month from the 4-6 month training group'. If you check your pilot reserve you'll notice some months that appear to have pilots bunching up, and others having fewer pilots.