The Return of SSI

SoulBlazer · Post by **SoulBlazer** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:49 am

Good news for wargamers -- Ubi Soft is resuming the SSI brand, which will publish several games this year including Harpoon 4.

Here's the news link --

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/ne ... 55,00.html

pasternakski · Post by **pasternakski** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:11 pm

Oh, brother. Another torpedo hits the side of my wargaming youth cargo ship.

Raverdave · Post by **Raverdave** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:53 pm

HARPOON 4! *Drool*

Matt Erickson · Post by **Matt Erickson** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:58 pm

I'm in!:D

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:16 pm

Just jope they don´t do harm to the name

derwho · Post by **derwho** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:21 pm

I'm just hoping they won't spoil H4 and make it like Fleet Command..

Full Moon · Post by **Full Moon** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:05 pm

Yeah, Destroyer Command did more harm than good to their reputation. It suffered a few bugs and stupid AI. It just didn't give me the feeling. You know whay I mean.

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:38 pm

Bah!

I've been waiting for H4 since my kids were in diapers.

*IF* or *WHEN* it ever ships, it will have to fight against H2/Admirals edition which has been cleaned up and ported to Windows/Mac as H3 by a little private group. It has already been stated that H4 will cover only a very limited area of the world, so while it has a facelift on the graphics side, the content has be dramatically reduced. If they have shifted it into an arcade game, then it's a dead product before it even hits the shelves.

Sonny · Post by **Sonny** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:15 pm

Originally posted by Full Moon
Yeah, Destroyer Command did more harm than good to their reputation. It suffered a few bugs and stupid AI. It just didn't give me the feeling. You know whay I mean.

It was pretty bad in my opinion. In the first cut the DDs were so accurate that it was impossible to survive. And the hardcoded campaign path was equally a pain in the rear. You couldn't start anywhere but the beginning and had to keep doing the mission over and over until you got it completed to the game's satisfaction - no matter how stupid it was (like the C&C campaigns).

I was hoping it would be a much updated and improved Aces of the Deep but it was a sad disappointment.

Full Moon · Post by **Full Moon** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:19 pm

Oh, are you talking about Silent Hunter?
Yeah, Aces of the Deep is one of my favorite sub sims.

boomboom · Post by **boomboom** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:23 pm

mine to,shame you can't save the game.

Sonny · Post by **Sonny** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 6:37 am

Originally posted by Full Moon
Oh, are you talking about Silent Hunter?
Yeah, Aces of the Deep is one of my favorite sub sims.

Yeah, I got goin on SSI cause I was soooo pissed at SH2. The little I played Destroyer Command made me think it was the same sh1t as SH2. Both are crap.

(Phew nice to vent on that one again.):)

teck · Post by **teck** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 7:15 am

Never have so many been lead a stray by so few than those who bought DC and SH2. Pray that it is not true with H4

rawink · Post by **rawink** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 7:46 am

Originally posted by Marc Schwanebeck
Just jope they don´t do harm to the name

aye aye..

I still have my copies of the GNB series, and of course the Steel panthers series.

If the REAL SSI comes back it's a good thing.. if it is a joke like Janes became at the end... then bleh.

SwampYankee68 · Post by **SwampYankee68** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:34 am

How about these, guys:

Modern remakes of some old C-64 greats by SSI:

Computer Ambush

Mech Brigade

The 'Nam

even, dare I say: Six Gun Shootout!

<Homer drooling sound here>

As has been said, if SSI came back as it was before, focused on quality wargames and sims, that'd be great, but can it being owned by Ubi?

rawink · Post by **rawink** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:56 am

As has been said, if SSI came back as it was before, focused on quality wargames and sims, that'd be great, but can it being owned by Ubi?

well, Tom Clancy's Red Storm is developed by Ubi.. and the Rainbow6, and Ghost recon series was by Ubi. Ubi did an EXCELLENT job with these titles. Ghost Recon being extremelly realistic, detail driven, and extremelly well thought out.

They HAVE the ability.. just have to see whther they are willing to sacrifice quality to achieve quantity.

SwampYankee68 · Post by **SwampYankee68** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:48 am

Good point. Here's hoping!

NefariousKoel · Post by **NefariousKoel** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 8:04 pm

In case you haven't checked it out yet.

http://harpoon4.ubi.com/US/

SWODOG · Post by **SWODOG** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 9:00 pm

I'm afraid H4 is going to be a big disappointment. I was following some of their forum when they opened it not long ago and some of the answers that the developers were providing made me feel like SH2, DC and Fleet Command all over again. example... with "fog of war" enabled if the player chooses to view an unknown contact in the 3d view the actual class or aircraft type will be displayed. This cheat was described by the developer as one which he hoped players would use the "honor system". Even Fleet Command displayed a generic ship or plane until sensors could indentify the contact. It makes me appreciate companies like Matrix that make war games not arcade games disguised as a war game. I played Harpoon for hours with guys on my ship. It was a great game. Harpoon remains one of my all time favorites and its legacy will most likely be diminished by the release of H4. H4 is going to be a Naval wargamers Daiktaina I'm afraid.

NefariousKoel · Post by **NefariousKoel** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:53 am

Multiplayer could be fun, but I'm picking it up for single player primarily. To each his own.

The Return of SSI

The Return of SSI

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